Do you consider an A-2 w/handwarmers to be a "real" A-2?

[Andrew]

NO.

Aside from all the previously stated reasons I'm sure another would have been simplicity of construction- much easier and quicker to simply stich on some patch pockets than construct some elaborate device that actually cuts a slice through the body of the jacket, needs a separate lining and could catch on something.

Those things spoil the fit of the jacket as well, adding extra bulk and gape to a region most guys can not afford. Absolute sacrilege to call it an A-2.

 

[zoomer]

Where is this thread going?

To Manville, where we will argue about anything in the strongest possible terms. Especially when mass market beer is involved.

 

[Tim P]

so, by the same rationale, do you consider a tanker jacket with a plain cloth collar to be a tanker? an irvin with pockets an irvin?

I would say not.

 

[Chandler]

Especially when mass market beer is involved.

Yeah, so? Handwarmers on A-2s go well with swill.
(and as a qualification, that should say mass-market U.S. beer, there's a lot of mass-market European beer that's very good)

Chandler

 

[Vcruiser]

"Everything looks better at closing time"

 

[zoomer]

Especially when mass market beer is involved.

Yeah, so? Handwarmers on A-2s go well with swill.
(and as a qualification, that should say mass-market U.S. beer, there's a lot of mass-market European beer that's very good)

Agreed. But I figure only Americans are going to talk serious smack at each other about a topic like this. It's a slightly more sophisticated analog to the Bud/Miller/Pabst rivalry.

 

[blueoakleyz]

Maybe you should rephrase your question:

Do you consider an WW-2 period A-2 w/handwarmers to be a "real" A-2 ?

Then my answer would be NO, and Falcon_52 has a real good point about the drawing number, that's the
key to this discussion, too bad there no original designs/drawings/documents on the TYPE A-2 jacket. That
would solve this question for once and for all

But that's really not what I meant. Everyone seemed to assume "ww2-accurate" but I have no interest in ww2 or any specific period..

 

[Roughwear]

Maybe you should rephrase your question:

Do you consider an WW-2 period A-2 w/handwarmers to be a "real" A-2 ?

Then my answer would be NO, and Falcon_52 has a real good point about the drawing number, that's the
key to this discussion, too bad there no original designs/drawings/documents on the TYPE A-2 jacket. That
would solve this question for once and for all

But that's really not what I meant. Everyone seemed to assume "ww2-accurate" but I have no interest in ww2 or any specific period..

Of course we did because anything other than a WW2 A2 or an accurate repro is not an A2 if one uses the original spec as a guide! :roll:

 

[Vcruiser]

But that's really not what I meant. Everyone seemed to assume "ww2-accurate" but I have no interest in ww2 or any specific period..

Then buy what you want. I think many "Bomber" jackets have handwarmers...and from a distant look somewhat like a "real" A2.
To most of us a "real" A2 is an issued A2 of WW2 vintage or one patterned in that style. A trim more shirtlike summer leather jacket without all the bells a whistles.
If none of that matters....then just a brown leather jacket with knits could be a "real" A2. Add handwarmers...sleeve pockets that zip or velcro...a cellphone holster.... a laced lambskin cupholder net...and an oversized keyring with a CBI mini flashlight.....

 

[Atticus]

But that's really not what I meant. Everyone seemed to assume "ww2-accurate" but I have no interest in ww2 or any specific period..

Then buy what you want. I think many "Bomber" jackets have handwarmers...and from a distant look somewhat like a "real" A2.
To most of us a "real" A2 is an issued A2 of WW2 vintage or one patterned in that style. A trim more shirtlike summer leather jacket without all the bells a whistles.
If none of that matters....then just a brown leather jacket with knits could be a "real" A2. Add handwarmers...sleeve pockets that zip or velcro...a cellphone holster.... a laced lambskin cupholder net...and an oversized keyring with a CBI mini flashlight.....

...Don't forget the map-imprinted lining, by which to make covert escape from enemy territory, and the "approved for low-level, high-speed flight" U.S. Gov'mint disclaimer....

AF

 

[blueoakleyz]

I think I myself have completely forgotten what I was tryin to find out. Oh well.. I like the jacket heh

 

[Falcon_52]

I think I myself have completely forgotten what I was tryin to find out. Oh well.. I like the jacket heh

That's alright. In the end, that's all that matters anyway...

Noel

 

[zoomer]

Guys...really now.
I appreciate that you show ya luv for Type A-2. I share the luv.
But at the end of the day, all it is is a TYPE. A design.
-waist length jacket -zip front -knit cuffs and waistband -fold-over collar -patch/flap pockets -epaulets -plain back

A-2

A-2

A-2

A-2

You can call a jacket an A-2 knockoff, civvy A-2, mall A-2, lame-ass gangsta pukeface A-2. But it's still an A-2. It's a valid descriptive term for a DESIGN that lots of people understand.

Handwarmers or lack of them, width of shoulders, pieced back or sleeves, extraneous or missing snaps etc., are all SUBTLETIES, however much you and I value them.

 

[Vcruiser]

Yeah...but it's still NOT a REAL A2...
...just as a Zoomer in a tutu couldn't be the real
Zoomer. Er...on second thought...

 

[Roughwear]

They are A2 "Style" jackets, not authentic A2s!

 

[deeb7]

They are A2 "Style" jackets, not authentic A2s!

Hey ...... I have the first one. :lol:

 

[hacker]

Yeah...but it's still NOT a REAL A2...
...just as a Zoomer in a tutu couldn't be the real
Zoomer. Er...on second thought...

Didn't he post that photo on the FL?........on second thought maybe it was that Spanish guy


Hacker

 

[Roughwear]

They are A2 "Style" jackets, not authentic A2s!

Hey ...... I have the first one. :lol:

OK, not the first one, but the others.

 

[zoomer]

Yeah...but it's still NOT a REAL A2...
...just as a Zoomer in a tutu couldn't be the real
Zoomer. Er...on second thought...

When Mistress Larisa Alexandrovna says "wear the tutu," zoomer wears the frikkin tutu.

 

[jacketimp]

Yeah...but it's still NOT a REAL A2...
...just as a Zoomer in a tutu couldn't be the real
Zoomer. Er...on second thought...

When Mistress Larisa Alexandrovna says "wear the tutu," zoomer wears the frikkin tutu.

does Mistress Larisa Alexandria crack her cat o'nine to get her wicked wayz........... :twisted:

craaaaaack craaaaaaaaack oooooooooooooh who's a naughty boy??