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ATF's 'new' B-10 & B-15 are now available
- Thread starter Brettafett
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B-Man2
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Thanks Brett
Smithy
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The outer fabric is of a very similar weight to an original. I've only handled two, one at the aviation museum I used to work for and one at a militaria dealer back in Melbourne. Comparing the lining is silly because it's fleece not alpaca, the same as their fleece tanker jacket.
It's not a BR but then it's a quarter of the price. Is it therefore 25% as accurate as the BR? No, more like 80 to 90.
If you want a stitch for stitch replica then the ATF isn't it, but then it isn't really marketed that way is it. If you want an exceedingly hardwearing jacket that is warm, comfortable and more than a good nod to an original B-10, it's worth considering.
Chandler
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FWIW -- Rollin has mentioned that ATF is using a new manufacturer and many of the new jackets and coats are not like any of the past items that were offered -- so there may not be any true apples to apples comparison to be done.
If you look at the detail images at the website, the B-10 & B-15 lining is not the same fleece as the Tankers -- the 2 AAF jackets look "furry," though we all know it's probably synthetic.
But I think @Smithy is spot on: pricepoint is the bottom line here. I'm impressed with my ATF Tankers and their construction, I think Rollin is a stickler for offering a well-made product, and I'll bet these 2 new ones will be great for non-stitch fascists.
If you look at the detail images at the website, the B-10 & B-15 lining is not the same fleece as the Tankers -- the 2 AAF jackets look "furry," though we all know it's probably synthetic.
But I think @Smithy is spot on: pricepoint is the bottom line here. I'm impressed with my ATF Tankers and their construction, I think Rollin is a stickler for offering a well-made product, and I'll bet these 2 new ones will be great for non-stitch fascists.
stanier
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That seems very fair Tim
Chandler
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Once again, they're not stitch-for-stitch repros -- and the prices reflect that.
I've had what were supposed to be superior repros, and priced as such, that were much further from exact than these new jackets.
stanier
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I get that, it's clear already and what I intended to reflect. Apologies if my post came across otherwise. Again, for me I will pass.
Smithy
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Yeah the artificial fur won't be for everyone just like the fleece lined tankers turn some off Chris.
In terms of the waist knit, I just dragged out Bianchi's "Flight Gear" and the ATF looks passable compared to the originals in that.
I think that's exactly the thing mate. If you want ultimate accuracy then you need to look elsewhere - BR, ELC. If you have an ATF fleece tanker and like it or are OK with that kind of "homage" to originals then the ATF is probably worth considering.
The one I do the work in is actually starting to look rather good, it's got a couple of grease and oil stains, the odd scratch and whathaveyou. Both the originals I handled were rather dirty and knocked around - hardly surprising though, WWII vintage aircraft are/were dirty with oil, grease and lots of sharp metal to catch and rub against.
Maybe I should offer a weathering service for flight jackets!
stanier
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I'd like to react with Like and HaHa! Wonderful Tim. Cheers
Smithy
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is this the room for a 5 minute argument or the full half hour?
Tradesmen round the back!
Chandler
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Just as long as we set the rules as to what's an argument and what's a simple contradiction.is this the room for a 5 minute argument or the full half hour?
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Grant
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Fake fur lining, lame repro zip and exposed zipper on a B-10, not for me. Excellent for what they are is not why I'm into this crazy hobby, but that's just my 2 cents. I'd much rather buy a second hand Eastman or old Real McCoy's. Then again, there's a reason why those are so difficult to find.
Spitfireace
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That would be Monty Python for those who don't remember or weren't there.is this the room for a 5 minute argument or the full half hour?
Spitfireace
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Or Buzz Rickson.
Brettafett
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Ive been looking for a secondhand ELC B-10 in a 42 for ages. These never come up.
Secondhand Buzz's often do, but one never knows what condition it is coming from Japan, and then ones from the US/ UK... $$££ may as well buy another Bronson.
Secondhand Buzz's often do, but one never knows what condition it is coming from Japan, and then ones from the US/ UK... $$££ may as well buy another Bronson.
