GW Rough Wear 18091

[Heisenberg]

the one on the left is the best ...

 

[Heisenberg]

 

[2BM2K]

who can post a photo of the " original Japanese " jacket ?

I never saved a copy of photo however looking back at the old threads it seems that it was john Chapman
who originally located the photo. Hopefully he may still have a copy.

 

[2BM2K]

Only a small photo but the left pocket is just visible;

 

[Technonut2112]

Thats why as a top repro maker today, to be super accurate, you'd have to study and look at a number of jackets of a particular contract. I believe John has done this.
Thus you get a good idea of what was 'most' common. Also why one maker's particular jacket, may have some details which vary, but are still accurate.

My 27752 was evidently done in this manner. Note the pockets in this comparison pic showing the original that my jacket was otherwise directly patterned from. Also noteworthy is how 'pointy' one of the pocket flaps appear on the original. I still can't figure out why he tagged the directly patterned repro a 46, when the original was tagged a 44. Perhaps the original was larger than most others he handled in that size:

 

[Micawber]

While SM's jacket is an original service garment bearing all the hallmarks of a re-dye what you see in the film, film still and publicity shots is ostensibly at that stage part of a film production costume.
Even if SM procurred the jacket from a thrift store, or wherever, it is still part of his production costume. All kinds of weird and wonderful stuff can potentially be carried out to costumes pre, during and post production. Things get repaired, replaced, aged, copied in case of damage to hero or stand in garments - you name it. All this hand wringing is fascinating but a bit like examining footage and stills from any other fictional production.

 

[Heisenberg]

anyway John's jacket will be much closer to the original next to McQueen BK , ELC and Toy’s Mc Coys

 

[Micawber]

anyway John's jacket will be much closer to the original next to McQueen BK , ELC and Toy’s Mc Coys

But at what stage in the life of the original will it represent?

 

[Heisenberg]

I let the talent of John do ... but all suggestions and information here for this jacket are good to take .

 

[mulceber]

This has been a very interesting read. I’ve been waiting for a deep dive into the McQueen jacket. So it sounds like the left (from the p.o.v. Of the wearer) pocket flap pushes for it being a 16159, while the zipper (a Talon M-42, iirc) pushes for it being a 27752.

On the whole, I think it’s more likely that the folks at RW made a 27752 that had a pocket flap resembling an earlier contract than that somebody along the way gave a 16159 a new zipper that just *happened* to be the same one that came standard on a 27752.

Either way, John’s gonna make you a great jacket. Are you going to have him give it the redye treatment?

 

[Heisenberg]

Hi mulceber
I'm waiting for the moment when John is ready to make this jacket , I read somewhere that he already made redye .

 

[Heisenberg]

But , look this Horween Horsehide . it's very similar to redye :

 

[B-Man2]

Hi Raphael
Have you talked to John about possibly actually doing a re-dye 27752 for you?
That would certainly add more accuracy to the jacket.

 

[mulceber]

Fair point. If it looks like that, you can just wear it in and get the McQueen effect.

 

[Brettafett]

Heisenberg, how long did you wait for your RW18091?
Was this RW27752 also ordered a while ago?

 

[Heisenberg]

Hi Raphael
Have you talked to John about possibly actually doing a re-dye 27752 for you?
That would certainly add more accuracy to the jacket.

I'm not going to rush John right now, he's got a job ... when the time is right i will gather all your informations my friend . everyone's informations

 

[Nickb123]

Here's the Monarch again in that lightweight Horween hh. I put a thin coat of Pecard's when I received it because it was rather dry. Here it is. John certainly could do it!

 

[Heisenberg]

Heisenberg, how long did you wait for your RW18091?
Was this RW27752 also ordered a while ago?

at the time of M-422 flying Tigers . I asked him if he had a RW for me , he replied that he was going to make a RW test jacket ... it is not a personal order .
for the RW 27752 he asked me to patient " a few months " ...

 

[B-Man2]

Nick
That damn thing is awesome... Looks more original than some originals I’ve seen.

 

[Heisenberg]

Here's the Monarch again in that lightweight Horween hh. I put a thin coat of Pecard's when I received it because it was rather dry. Here it is. John certainly could do it!

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incredible !!