At Duxford today Gary Eastman had on display his first original maker B-3 since the RW redskin. It is a Perry Sportswear jacket from their first contract, 17808 which dates to Feb. 1941. The jacket is made from a redskin fleece for the front and sleeves and uses seal sheepskin for the two panel back and cuffs. The jacket has been given the Time Worn treatment and looks very nice indeed. The zip is repro Talon. Talon zips were used on this contract. The jacket will be launched shortly on the ELC website in the next few weeks and will retail for around £750. Marcel has taken some photos which I'm sure he will post shortly.
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NEW EASTMAN PERRY SPORTSWEAR B-3
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John Lever
Moderator
Interesting. I have asked Gary several times about making a jacket like, this with no result .
Can't wait to see the photos, but the price !!!
Can't wait to see the photos, but the price !!!
ausreenactor
Well-Known Member
I am starting to wonder if it is the label makers who are the true masterminds these days. Mod the pattern a tad, a bit more seal, a little less russet and there you go...the next big thing!! Probably pay $2.00-$5.00 for the label too... 
You are nothing but a cynic!!!!!!
However, I cant help but think you may well be right. Even if the jacket was sewn with specially sourced thread, it is unlikely to have been assembled from specifically sourced hides, like you say, make it duo tone from on hand components, add a label and a zip which, again, isnt such a deviation from the norm to send me into fits of joy and it is almost a case of , hey presto!!! If the Perry has a waitband that was 1/4 of an inch narrower or similar, that is unlikely to impact significantly on the overall look of the jacket.
I cant escape the selling blurb (which even avirex pile on thickly) to the effect that this and that meticulous research has gone into it - which I don't doubt- and we're passing on the cost of that research to the consumer because we have worked so hard.
I applaud however, efforts to continually offer more diverse products. I will always drool over Eastman products and if I come across as negative it is because of exasperation that their recent surge of upping their game has left their uber sexy products outside my budget by a mile.
I have been loyal to the Eastman product for years as a read back of many of my posts will show and made a lot of purchases when they were merely very good..
now they are excellent they have left me behind. Its the second hand market for me now...
That said, I cant wait to see pics.
However, I cant help but think you may well be right. Even if the jacket was sewn with specially sourced thread, it is unlikely to have been assembled from specifically sourced hides, like you say, make it duo tone from on hand components, add a label and a zip which, again, isnt such a deviation from the norm to send me into fits of joy and it is almost a case of , hey presto!!! If the Perry has a waitband that was 1/4 of an inch narrower or similar, that is unlikely to impact significantly on the overall look of the jacket.
I cant escape the selling blurb (which even avirex pile on thickly) to the effect that this and that meticulous research has gone into it - which I don't doubt- and we're passing on the cost of that research to the consumer because we have worked so hard.
I applaud however, efforts to continually offer more diverse products. I will always drool over Eastman products and if I come across as negative it is because of exasperation that their recent surge of upping their game has left their uber sexy products outside my budget by a mile.
I have been loyal to the Eastman product for years as a read back of many of my posts will show and made a lot of purchases when they were merely very good..
now they are excellent they have left me behind. Its the second hand market for me now...
That said, I cant wait to see pics.
John Lever
Moderator
How well you know me....deeb7 said:John Lever said:
Yeah, I doubt that's going to stop you.
ausreenactor
Well-Known Member
Tim P said:You are nothing but a cynic!!!!!!
However, I cant help but think you may well be right.
I concede that great hides and the 'research' add to the value of a jacket, but in theory
the process of jacket making by the key players should be getting more refined now. I am
certain that JC has his ring hanging out, and the price of his jackets does not reflect what
he puts into them. On the other hand I am sure there is a mass of production(as opposed
to mass-production) at ELC despite the price. Like yourself, I lived and breathed Eastman
and had one of each Original Contract A-2, then sold them off to fund Nylons and Cloth
BRs in an effort to make a timeline of jackets, as opposed to the row of A-2s that all blended
into one another over time. It is almost like the housing market, if you did not get in early
with something to sell off to fund a newer one, you are priced out of the market.
Coopers will be $600 next? :roll:
And I think the last birthday turned me cranky...
Couchy
unclegrumpy
Well-Known Member
ausreenactor said:
They'll do that to you..... :shock:
dujardin
Well-Known Member
here comes the photos i took in the ELC tent
Andrew, Gary.... and my wife; would she buy me a jacket??? :lol: :lol:
the B-3
the A-2 (already presented)
the A-1
next time, i will take more and better photos, i did'nt knew Andrew will give me the honor to present this new jacket.
i place the photos, but for comments; request Andrew
byebyeeeeeeeeeeee
marcel
Andrew, Gary.... and my wife; would she buy me a jacket??? :lol: :lol:
the B-3
the A-2 (already presented)
the A-1
next time, i will take more and better photos, i did'nt knew Andrew will give me the honor to present this new jacket.
i place the photos, but for comments; request Andrew
byebyeeeeeeeeeeee
marcel
John Lever
Moderator
It looks good to me though the very long cuffs are a negative, great fleece colour. Though it's a 50 Cal. I see no wear on the collar straps. These could be burnished with old news paper.
Falcon_52
Active Member
Thanks for the photos, Marcel. The Perry B-3 looks interesting but it's definitely not for me (plus the price is beyond my means). I completely agree about the time worn treatment - I just can't see why these jackets need any sort of treatment at all. These non-heavy spray or aniline finished jackets basically "time wear" themselves after a few months. For sure, that A-1 doesn't need it!
Noel
Noel
The cuffs look fine to me, but John has had more repro B-3s that anyone in the world so he should know.
Here it is on the ELC website:
http://www.eastmanleather.com/product_i ... cts_id=237
Here it is on the ELC website:
http://www.eastmanleather.com/product_i ... cts_id=237
John Lever
Moderator
Ouch !!Roughwear said:The cuffs look fine to me, but John has had more repro B-3s that anyone in the world so he should know.
Here it is on the ELC website:
http://www.eastmanleather.com/product_i ... cts_id=237
I just prefer the arm shape and cuffs on RM, but then I am a slavish fan of theirs. Some jackets did have cuffs like this I know, so it's just my preference not authenticity.
John Lever
Moderator
Too late ....Roughwear said:So is this jacket on your "must buy" list John?
