L-2B vs MA-1

[Greg Gale]

Hah! Thanks for sharing. Due to the quality/ colors of the photo and the angle he's standing, I wouldn't have realized he was wearing an A-2. It's a quite dark one too. Maybe a re-dyed one?

 

[Smithy]

Almost certainly a redye Greg. Sorry about the quality of the scan, by the looks of it I must have done it late at night with the lights turned off!

Here's Salter wearing his at Kimpo. The guy standing next to Salter is James Low, the inspiration for Pell in "The Hunters".

 

[Greg Gale]

George!

 

[Smithy]

BTW the patch on his jacket is the 75th FIS who he had flown with at Presque Isle

 

[falcon_ib]

L-2 seen with the 36th FBS in May, 1953

Buzz Aldrin of the 16th FIS/51st FIG displaying his beautiful patched L-2A in 1953

Not a color picture but one of my favorite mid-50s L-2B portraits (note how he's tucked one of the pocket flaps into the pocket, as well as the uncommon black cloth name tape)

 

[Flightengineer]

L2B's flaps into the pocket loved to put many pilots

 

[unclegrumpy]

The black name tags were typically Japanese made, and I have seen them in blue, red, and yellow as well. I have been told the colors were to designate the wearer's flight. "Flight" being the subsections of a Squadron. I would not say this was a common practice, but you do occasionally see it.

 

[Cocker]

Almost certainly a redye Greg. Sorry about the quality of the scan, by the looks of it I must have done it late at night with the lights turned off!

Seen the color and the USAAF roundel on the shoulder, it's 100% sure it's a depot re-dye indeed!

 

[Greg Gale]

I got my Bronson 1950s MA-1 today, size 40 (L). I'm blown away. perfect fit, amazing quality. I'll post some pictures and a review later. In the win some lose some game this was definitely a big WIN!

 

[Brettafett]

Two love to China!

 

[MeachamLake]

I got my Bronson 1950s MA-1 today, size 40 (L). I'm blown away. perfect fit, amazing quality. I'll post some pictures and a review later. In the win some lose some game this was definitely a big WIN!

Very interested to see some pics!

 

[watchmanjimg]

As I recall from the film, Cleve Saville wore an olive drab L-2.

Is it an L2-B on the right on Major Saville?

 

[watchmanjimg]

Certainly an L-2B (although the photo is black and white the "tell" is the nylon oxygen mask tab on the chest vs. the L-2's leather tab), and the intermediate jacket is either a very early Lion Uniform MA-1 or possibly a B-15D (modified). It's hard to tell from the photo.

An L-2B and an MA-1 if I'm not mistaken:

 

[watchmanjimg]

Some claim that L-2Bs made it to Korea before the end of the conflict but I wouldn't bet anything valuable on this without more information. The intermediate MA-1 was very common during Vietnam but given its weight I'm not sure many were actually worn there; however, the L-2B was commonly used by Army and Air Force personnel in Vietnam and thereafter until replaced by the Nomex CWU series.

I've never owned an L-2B but I'd really like to buy either one of those, or an MA-1. Question is, how warm are L2B-s compared to an A-2 for example? Which one would be the more practical choice if I own an A-2, a G-1 and an Irvin?

Am I mistaken or L2B-s were typical in the Korean war, and the MA-1 in te late 50s and Vietnam?

Thanks!

 

[falcon_ib]

MA-1's in Vietnam are commonly seen with 101st Airborne and 1st Cavalry Airmobile helicopter pilots based in the chilly central highlands, where L-2B's are also seen. Photos are from VHPA online museum

Bill Russel, B Troop 2/17 Cav 101st ABN 1969

C/2/17

W.O. Byron 'Crash' Grubbs C/2/17

Michael Russel, Da Lat 1970

 

[watchmanjimg]

MA-1's in Vietnam are commonly seen with 101st Airborne and 1st Cavalry Airmobile helicopter pilots based in the chilly central highlands, where L-2B's are also seen. Photos are from VHPA online museum

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Bill Russel, B Troop 2/17 Cav 101st ABN 1969

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C/2/17

W.O. Byron 'Crash' Grubbs C/2/17

Michael Russel, Da Lat 1970

Great pictures, but these are all L-2Bs. Do you have any actual Vietnam MA-1 photos?

 

[falcon_ib]

Apologies for the first two L-2Bs, but the pictures of Grubbs and Russel in country appear to be MA-1s

 

[watchmanjimg]

Apologies for the first two L-2Bs, but the pictures of Grubbs and Russel in country appear to be MA-1s

No apology necessary of course, this is just an exchange of information. Aside from the lighter construction, the absence of a windflap identifies all of these as L-2Bs (particularly obvious in the last photo with the jacket completely unzipped). I'm not saying the MA-1 was never worn in Vietnam, but I have yet to see a single original photo proving it.

 

[Pilot]

Interesting, thx. for sharing...

 

[colekwok]

Here are a comparison of a B15D(Mod) and two different L-2Bs here which I did just for fun a while ago.

The B15D (mod) is almost identical to the early MA-1 where as the two L-2Bs may have some years apart, but certainly from the later contracts. I have a very early version of L-2b but I haven't taken any picture of it. The B15D is a size 38 while the 2 L-2Bs are medium.