ID these USN jackets 1932

[Silver Surfer]

the sailor on the right in the pic above could be jimmy Cagney's twin

 

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That IS Jimmy. He and Pat O'Brien teamed up in a lot of service films. In this one O'Brien is left dangling from a rope below Macon. Cagney climbs down it to parachute him to safety. Clip (8:40 - rope sequence about 5:00 in)

 

[Silver Surfer]

hahahahahahahahhaa

 

[dinomartino1]

That was the collar that was was confusing me but in the photo from the film the collars look pretty close at a similar angle.
Always been more inteterested in the prewar USN jackets because of the variety they had.

 

[asiamiles]

I know how badly everyone wants those zipped jackets at Floyd Bennett Field to be leather...well, I regret having to throw a wrench into the works.

To my eye the buttoned jackets are all cape 37J1s, and the zipped ones are all jungle cloth

Indeed. The cloth jackets not only were zippered but were styled (maybe a couple of inches) longer than the leather ones...this was also true of one of the Buzz repros I had. This was then carried over into later eras with Navy flight jackets generally longer in cut than their Air Force counterparts; not sure why that would be.

 

[Thomas Koehle]

Found these pics somewhere on the net ...

Never seen this variant + nomenclature before ...

 

[dinomartino1]

Never seen this variant + nomenclature before ...

Instructors & Students Class #49, parachute material school, NAS Lakehurst, N. J. 13 August 1940.

 

[asiamiles]

Never seen this variant + nomenclature before ...

Me neither. Interesting find, though not sure I'm particularly keen on the design.

 

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That was the collar that was was confusing me but in the photo from the film the collars look pretty close at a similar angle.
Always been more inteterested in the prewar USN jackets because of the variety they had.

On the guy from Floyd Bennett, what you see on the right side is actually his helmet strap.

 

[Maverickson]

Hi All,

Yes, zippers have been used on jackets for some time. A good early example is my civilian survivor which has a brass Talon that may very well predate date 1932.

The jacket was made by an aviation equipment manufacturer and worn by early aviators.

A number of patent dates are seen on the reverse side of the slider.

As seen above on my jacket's early brass Talon (Hookless) grommet type zipper slider, the earliest patent dates 1917 and latest 1925.

An upgraded jacket design that I have developed in both button and zip up models. All of which I have been reproducing now for several years https://www.vintageleatherjackets.org/threads/sheeleys-pending-1930s-utility-jacket-builds.24539/ .

Cheers, Dave

 

[Skyhawk]

https://www.vintageleatherjackets.org/threads/leather-m-375.25781/

 

[bseal]

Lots of zippers View attachment 122707

Zippers. Boo-hiss.

 

[Tbaas]

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Men of the the Naval Reserve Air Squadron based at Floyd Bennett Field, New York and regular navy station keepers ready to fly to Cleveland, Ohio to take part in the air races, 1932.

If you at the guys with the zip jackets in the back row they appear to have stand collars and they seem to be bigger than the ones at the bottom but maybe thats the angle of the photo that makes them look different to the ones below.
If you at the guys with the zip jackets in the front row the third and fourth from the left and last on the right [hard to tell if that is even leather]t the collars are different with one button loop.
The guy fifth from the left on the front row may have a jacket with a regular collar.
You can't see the button loops on zip jackets on the back row but they have similarities with this jacket being worn by stunt pilot Frank Clarke in 1933
Too hard for my tired old man eyes.

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What’s with the pocket position on some of those jackets? They’re almost breast pockets. Was that common on the A1 jackets?

 

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What’s with the pocket position on some of those jackets? They’re almost breast pockets. Was that common on the A1 jackets?

It was, on Navy spec 37J1. Some had pockets a little lower but still above waist level. They mostly had “baseball jacket” type collars too.