ID these USN jackets 1932

[JonnyCrow]

Curious, himel bros also

The Heron Zip - Medium Brown Shinki Horsehide Oil Finish

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[Chandler]

Curious, himel bros also

The Heron Zip - Medium Brown Shinki Horsehide Oil Finish

Looking for the best made, most authentic Horsehide A1 jacket on the market? The Himel Bros. Heron is your One Good Thing. Customize your jacket online, and select one of our proprietary ultra-premium leathers. Made in Toronto, Canada.

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Looks more like a tan G-8.

 

[JonnyCrow]

Eureka Bill Kelso is calling it a 1930s AG Spalding jacket mm

Bill Kelso Civilian Aviators A-1 Jacket

Based on a A.G Spalding sports jacket from the 1930's, Bill Kelso in conjunction with ourselves have reproduced the jacket with all the details that make is quite special. Based on an early USAF A-1 style of flying jacket from the early 1930's this jacket keeps the same design and components but...

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[JonnyCrow]

Headwind covered this year's ago here, did it happen?

New Reproduction Jacket - A.G. Spalding & Bros Model 722 Flight Jacket

Hi guys, I have been working on this jacket for quite sometime. The idea was first born a few years back when I got a Spalding catalog book and found this jacket in the catalog. Recently we got the chance to pattern the jacket and do a few test jackets while we were waiting for our supplies...

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[Chandler]

Headwind covered this year's ago here, did it happen?

New Reproduction Jacket - A.G. Spalding & Bros Model 722 Flight Jacket

Hi guys, I have been working on this jacket for quite sometime. The idea was first born a few years back when I got a Spalding catalog book and found this jacket in the catalog. Recently we got the chance to pattern the jacket and do a few test jackets while we were waiting for our supplies...

www.vintageleatherjackets.org

Package is on the truck.

 

[JonnyCrow]

Amelia Earhart, also a Spalding?

 

[Skyhawk]

Amelia's was made by SAT.

Headwind's

We will probably revive this one. It is out of the Spalding Catalog circa mid 1930's. Their other variant has the knit collar.

 

[Skyhawk]

Basically it's this yes?
Research over.
SAT made it. Private purchase probably.

Even the zipper pullers are the same.

 

[Skyhawk]

 

[Chandler]

Basically it's this yes?
Research over.
SAT made it. Private purchase probably.
View attachment 122737
Even the zipper pullers are the same.

Collar is different from Frank Clarke's in post #1.

 

[Skyhawk]

Yep they all stop at the neck knit. Maybe Amelia's is a slightly different variant. All else looks identical.

 

[zoomer]

I know how badly everyone wants those zipped jackets at Floyd Bennett Field to be leather...well, I regret having to throw a wrench into the works.

To my eye the buttoned jackets are all cape 37J1s, and the zipped ones are all jungle cloth, an early variant on the then-new 37J1A - perhaps a test version. See 3d and 5th from L top, and all but 2d from R bottom.

See 1939's Wings of the Navy for this jacket worn by John Payne (just below). Single button/loop collar, A-1-style pockets, back stencil (assumably), and no stormflap. Some of the Floyd Bennett pilots may have stormflaps, others obviously don't.

This variant is also worn by 2 Marine pilots at Quantico in a photo dateable to late 1931 (bottom, 2nd from L and center).

No examples are known to survive.

 

[zoomer]

Further to the cloth variant...I know I've seen "Service Green" 37J1s (without that model number) in 1930s ads to the civilian aviation market (perhaps Air Associates?).

Can anyone who has such an ad kindly produce it? Maybe it'll turn out to match the John Payne type above.

 

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Collar is different from Frank Clarke's in post #1.

Clarke appears to have an extra high collar with three loops...or maybe it's lined with jacket liner material, as was sometimes done, and the bottom loop is for better closure below the neckline.

 

[dinomartino1]

The collars don't look the same

 

[Chandler]

Clarke appears to have an extra high collar with three loops...or maybe it's lined with jacket liner material, as was sometimes done, and the bottom loop is for better closure below the neckline.

View attachment 122785

And the collar material goes all the way to the zipper seam(s).

 

[Chandler]

I know how badly everyone wants those zipped jackets to be leather...well, I regret having to throw a wrench into the works.

To my eye the buttoned jackets are all cape 37J1s, and the zipped ones are all jungle cloth, an early variant on the then-new 37J1A - perhaps a test version. See 3d and 5th from L top, and all but 2d from R bottom.

I wondered about this myself, but didn't get a chance (okay, I forgot -- too much going on in the real world ) to look at the images on my big screen.

 

[zoomer]

More pix of Frank Clarke, both with Paul Mantz, who soon got an identical jacket.

 

[zoomer]

The collars don't look the same

Good eyes Dino. The originals overlap the zipper line, apparently only on the loop (L) side.
Here is CWO Emmett Thurman aboard USS Akron in 1932.

 

[zoomer]

Robert Barrat as skipper of USS Macon in Here Comes the Navy, 1934. Note A-1-style yoked back.