B3 jackets collars and fleece colouring

[John Lever]

Interesting photos showing design and colour variations

 

[John Lever]

Note some of the fleece looks like it might be russet or brown, shiny acrylic surface coating, some large collars and some very big fitting jackets.
Very different from MOTA

 

[Dumpster D]

Cool thread. (what is MOTA?)

..I Just figured the 'darker' fleece was stained from being grease monkeys all day.

 

[John Lever]

I think it is too even for staining

 

[Dany McDonald]

Interesting USN M-445 used by the USAAF.

I think I prefer that cut over the B-3 personally.

The image is saturated, the mouton (*shearling) is probably paler.

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[Chandler]

I'd never attempt to guess color from B&W pictures. Shades, maybe.

 

[John Lever]

I'd never attempt to guess color from B&W pictures. Shades, maybe.

I should have said hues or shades

 

[bseal]

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Back then all the collars seemed a bit grayer than I’m used to seeing nowadays.

 

[Dany McDonald]

I'd never attempt to guess color from B&W pictures. Shades, maybe.

Nothing to do with color or hue... Basic image adjustment or grading. The last image for which my comment was directed is oversaturated and the contrast is very high hence the mouton (*shearling) being too dark.

Its common with 40's images that are found on the net.

A very interesting set of images albeit!

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[jack31916]

Interesting USN M-445 used by the USAAF.

I think I prefer that cut over the B-3 personally.

The image is saturated, the mouton is probably paler.

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More likely AN-J-4 jackets.

 

[Chandler]

Back then all the collars seemed a bit grayer than I’m used to seeing nowadays.

I see what you did there.

The Wizard of Oz must really freak you out.

 

[Dany McDonald]

More likely AN-J-4 jackets.

Yeah I see it now... I've just realized how close the two type look alike.

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[Dany McDonald]

Maybe a M-445B...? I keep seeing features of a Monarch M-445B...

 

[Dumpster D]

I think it is too even for staining

I was only kidding of course.

I've never come across one of those darker fleece colours yet. Nothing ever.

It's not hard to believe they made them like that, I've just never seen one. The black and white photos make it pretty hard to tell. I would like to see someone who has an original one in the darker fleece colour.

Sheepskin tends to get pretty yellow with age. Always hear the B-3's on ebay being described as having a 'Honey' coloured sheepskin.

 

[bseal]

I see what you did there.

The Wizard of Oz must really freak you out.

 

[Greg Gale]

I think it’s colorized, though

 

[Chandler]

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I think it’s colorized, though

Right down to the dirty fingernails. Not bad if it's a colorization.

Nasty tear on that left sleeve -- following Sobel thru barbed-wire?

 

[B-Man2]

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I think it’s colorized, though

I’ve seen a lot of photos like this where the B-3 hides are torn and the shearling is exposed. Typical of WWII B-3s that were worn crawling in and out of bombers with cramped passage ways with sharp angles of protruding metal. Do you think the acrylic top coats were applied to help stiffen the hides to prevent tearing of the hide ? Ironically that’s what causes most of them to fall apart 80 years later.

 

[Spitfireace]

Interesting USN M-445 used by the USAAF.

I think I prefer that cut over the B-3 personally.

The image is saturated, the mouton (*shearling) is probably paler.

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Really huge collars on those B-3's.

 

[Spitfireace]

I don't think I could pull off walking around in a huge collar B-3. M-445 looks a bit more understated.