Richard Winter's A2

[taikonaut]

I wonder what make of A2 he is wearing?
http://www.heroesforever.nl/Images/Afbe ... Toccoa.jpg

 

[Swing]

I wonder what make of A2 he is wearing?
http://www.heroesforever.nl/Images/Afbe ... Toccoa.jpg

I can't say for sure, but "Dubow" was the first thing that came to mind when I looked at that photo.

~Swing

 

[T-Bolt]

Yeah Swing,

I was kinda thinking Dubow myself when I first eyeballed it........but then again I am a major Dubow enthusiast!


Ted

 

[taikonaut]

Do you think he was still wearing the same jacket in a more recent photo?

http://media.historynet.com/images/dickwinters-11.jpg

 

[Jake431]

I'd doubt it, but who knows? It doesn't look similar to my eye.

-Jake

 

[Swing]

I wonder what make of A2 he is wearing?
http://www.heroesforever.nl/Images/Afbe ... Toccoa.jpg

The more I look at it, the more I think it's a Roughwear.

~Swing

 

[Tim P]

the scalloping of the pockets looks very rough wear and the collar to me would be narrower where it crosses the top of the shoulder if it were a Dubow. rough wear collars are notoriously uniform in width all the way round and, although this is folded over a little that width seems evident to me. I would plum for a rough wear too.

 

[taikonaut]

It looks brand new not rough at all?

 

[bseal]

Avirex.

 

[Robman]

I have seen this photo and I believe Dubow. Looking at the right side collar does not show evidence of a standcollar. The pockets are a little tall and close to the zipper ala Dubow.

 

[taikonaut]

I wonder who made Dick Winter's current A2?
Could it be Real McCoy?

 

[Steve27752]

I think that the 1st photo is like a Rough Wear; looking at the shape of the pockets and the collar.

 

[taikonaut]

Any vote for Spiewak?

 

[Robman]

I thought Spiewak too, but the pocket spacing to me at least looks more Dubowish...unless I'm wrong the Spiewaks are further from the zipper to my eye.

 

[Chandler]

Okay, since we're all over the board, I'll put a vote in for Star based on the dark shade and pointy collar.
Anyone? Anyone?

Chandler

 

[Swing]

IMO, the fact that the picture is from October '42 would rule out Star and Spiewak. The Star contract was from April or May '42, and the Spiewak contract was certainly from May '42. Work had probably started on those contracts by October, but I doubt many, if any, jackets had been delivered to the AAF. I wouldn't expect to see either contract in action until early '43.

Looking at how the left side of this collar is pinched and the rolled, I believe he's wearing a jacket with a collar stand.

~Swing

 

[Chandler]

Looking at how the left side of this collar is pinched and the rolled, I believe he's wearing a jacket with a collar stand.

I'll defer to you on the dates, but the pinch on the collar made me think just the opposite of you with the collar stand... even though my first thought was Roughwear too (based on the pocket flaps). Seems like most of the collar stand jackets I've seen tend to "roll" rather than "pinch (as I see this one)."

I'm reading Beyond Band of Brothers right now and there's another picture of Winters at this same time, but from a different view. The caption says it's the "leather jacket" he received upon graduating from Paratrooper School. No other mention in the book (as of yet).

Chandler

 

[Roughwear]

Looking at how the left side of this collar is pinched and the rolled, I believe he's wearing a jacket with a collar stand.

I'll defer to you on the dates, but the pinch on the collar made me think just the opposite of you with the collar stand... even though my first thought was Roughwear too (based on the pocket flaps). Seems like most of the collar stand jackets I've seen tend to "roll" rather than "pinch (as I see this one)."

I'm reading Beyond Band of Brothers right now and there's another picture of Winters at this same time, but from a different view. The caption says it's the "leather jacket" he received upon graduating from Paratrooper School. No other mention in the book (as of yet).

Chandler

This is interesting. The date he graduated from paratrooper school would be useful to know to help eliminate other A2 contracts, perhaps.

 

[greyhound52]

Had a chat with John Chapman today (while he was busy sewing jackets he has 45 pending orders) and his vote is for Dubow. BTW he is close if not exceeded his 100th production jacket.

 

[Anonymous]

This is interesting. The date he graduated from paratrooper school would be useful to know to help eliminate other A2 contracts, perhaps.

506 PIR was formed in Aug 42. I believe Winters was assigned Sept. The photo is dated Oct 42. So issue date of Sept-Oct 42 is your window.