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These jackets appear to have a lot of provenance, but they look like they were just painted.
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Roughwear said:If the jackets have been stored since the war there is no reason for the paint work not to stay bright and new looking. There is serious bidding on this collection and I wonder how high they will go?
Totally beside the issue at hand of course, but that's the Dutch flag! The French is Red White Blue in vertical stripes. So he flew over the Dutch Indies, now Indonesia, which fits in with the other flags.dmar836 said:(....) appear to touch the French flag
dmar836 said:Didn't look right to me either. Two things I would want to study. First, does the right wing on the M-41 appear to touch the French flag about 1/3 from the left and on the original the wing appears to touch it on the other end of the flag?dmar836 said:I have compared the pictures and am yet to be convinced about this. In the original photo of the M-41 there is a fold in the material which distorts the view.
dmar836 said:Second, the painting on the back of the B-15 looks much higher in the original pic. This may be because the coat is hanging by the loop which could make the collar roll back and appear longer thus making the painting appear closer to the collar. I would want to examine it closer based on these two things. Although, it would be a chore to recreate the front too.dmar836 said:I think this is the camera angle. I too would need to examine both jackets to be 100% certain the art work has not be faked, but do not find the arguments that they have been faked convincing.
Weasel_Loader said:I agree that these do not appear to be the same jackets in the B&W photo. The shape of the wing tips on the M-41s do not match up. Hope the fella who made the purchase knows his stuff. :roll:
As penitence you should learn the Dutch National Anthem by heart - in Dutch!dmar836 said:Dutch flag? Oops! And I'm Dutch German! My grandfather is rolling in his grave.
dmar836 said:This discussion reminds me of the A-2 "El Lobo II" in Maguire's book, Gear Up! I say it's a very well-done redo at best.
Roughwear said:Weasel_Loader said:I agree that these do not appear to be the same jackets in the B&W photo. The shape of the wing tips on the M-41s do not match up. Hope the fella who made the purchase knows his stuff. :roll:
The camera angle coupled with folds in the material explain the apparent variation in the wing tip on the M-41.