Original Hartmann

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  1. m444uk

    m444uk Active Member

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    Here's another issue leather jacket. Note the electrical heating connector, these were designed for high altitude flight.

    http://cas.awm.gov.au/heraldry/REL/18105.001

    The other issued jacket was the sheepskin kanal jacket. The white version was widely used on the eastern front.
    They can also be found in brown which seem to have been Hungarian issue and blue variants found in the west
    issued to units using the summer channel cloth jacket.

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    Hungarian kanals and 1944 pattern luftwaffe
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    Try to get hold of this book from your library and you will see the vast array of flying clothing the Luftwaffe issued.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Luftwaffe-vs-RA ... 16-8306553
     
  2. Aviator

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    The second pic is a nice one. Anybody have a bigger version of it?
     
  3. m444uk

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    It's from one of Bernd Barbas's books.

    The original wartime Signal magazine has loads of this sort of stuff
     
  4. m444uk

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    mini sub crew

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    2 white kanals one being worn by Galland, 1 private purchase black sheepskin owned by Hannes Trautloft who served
    in the Luftwaffe for 40 years retiring in 1970.

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  5. TankBuster

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    Excellent collection of Luft flight jackets! I have a small group myself. They are tough to find.
    Luftwaffe pilots were definitely issued leather flight jackets. There are a few different types
    that were used as M444 UK has shown.

    These were all issued, although 2 are cloth. The 1st is the heated leather issued later in the war.

    Issued Heated Leather Flight Jacket

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    Heated Cloth Version

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    Non Heated Cloth Version

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  7. Aviator

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    Let´s say he served for 26 years. ;) Luftwaffe from 1932 -45 and Bundesluftwaffe from 1957 -70. There was no German airforce between 1945 and 1956.
     
  8. Andrew

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    Wow Jeff, didn't know you had these as well. Your certainly have a fabulous Collection. Thanks for posting these.
     
  9. TankBuster

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    Thanks Andrew. That is all I have left. I used to have some others,
    but sold them off to fund more A-2 groups. I kept these 3 due to
    their great condition, and the fact they were my best issued examples.
     
  10. Anonymous

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    Hi Tankbuster do you have any aircraft we should see ! that we do not know about . :lol:
    Nice collection of Luft jackets there Jeff .

    All the best Jeff
     
  11. asiamiles

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    But perhaps they preferred the more stylish ones that could be purchased privately?
     
  12. TankBuster

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    Miles,
    I'm sure some did. The issued style leather jackets however were not available until 1942 or
    later. Most private purchase jackets were purchased during the B.O.B. because there was really
    nothing else (Leather) available at the time. Once the issued leather came about, they were
    worn readily. There are tons of pictures with Luftwaffe pilots wearing them.

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  13. TankBuster

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    Sorry Jeff, no aircraft. The only Mustang I have is for the highways. ;)
     
  14. m444uk

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    The way the HE 162's are neatly lined up in the open might suggest this was taken just after the surrender ?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_162

    In fact, under the jackets appear dress uniforms not the functional flight trousers etc.

    Those cloth jackets in your collection are in amazing condition.
    Do you have a photo you can post of the inside of the electrically heated one ?
     
  15. TankBuster

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    Good eye! Yes, that makes sense. I always loved that picture showing these
    jackets in wear.
    Thanks for the compliment. There is a little more wear than appears, but they
    are very clean for the most part. I will get some inside shots taken this evening.
    The label is intact as is all the electrical connectors/cords.
     
  16. Aa12

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    Hello, I'm not sure you will get this message.. But I am a huge admirer of this jacket worn by Hannes Trautloft .. I am attempting to have this jacket custom made, is there anyway you could post more detailed photos of the jacket?? It would help me immensely!
     
  17. Aa12

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    ^ I meant the black sheepskin jacket worn by Trautloft, just to clarify
     

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