Eastman Leather Mystery Jacket...need some input.

[Tattoo A2]

Just got this ELC Roughwear 1401p off of ebay for 250 dollars, it was listed as a Vietnam era flight jacket. Anyway it has me a bit puzzled. The jackets tag is for the Roughwear 1401P, yet the jacket is a darker brown color, It also has the white tag next to label that eastman puts in, not sure when they started or ended that. The size tag in the pocket is cut off and there are no Eastman labels in the jacket at all. To me it appears to be Goatskin, which I didnt think Eastman did, and the leather is in great condition, almost like new except for a small puncture hole on the shoulder. The knits are replacements and wrong, the sleeves are black and the waistband is almost that dark. Please look at the photos, I would like to get the knits changed and the hole fixed, does Steve Sellers do that? And has anyone ever seen this model from ELC this dark or in Goatskin? Please chime in, the price was right and nobody else bid on it.

 

[Chandler]

Interesting piece. FWIW -- my 1995 1401 came with that extra tag on the spec tag. I carefully cut it out.

The 27752 I had showed remnants of the same tag (estimated to be the same era jacket).

Interesting that there's an AAF decal on the sleeve, but I suppose the original buyer may have requested it.

Suspicious that the pocket tag is gone, but not the extra one at the spec tag.

Oh yeah, and I'm pretty sure ELC offers goat.

 

[Tattoo A2]

The size tag is still in the one pocket but was cut out a bit so all I can see is RW, usually Eastman has a label in the other pocket, but nothing is there and never was, also thought the white tag being there was odd and the other one cut, Thanks Steve. And its definitely an ELC decal on the arm....

 

[B-Man2]

Rob
It’s definitely a late 1990s… early 2000’s time frame ELC RW. I had one with the same white “Made in England” tag. I would definitely have a chat with Steve Sellers regarding having the knits replaced . You might want to order a set from “Mash” first as it will save time if you send him the jacket and the knits together. Also talk to him about repairing the hole . He’s a wizard when it comes to things like that .

 

[Chandler]

...usually Eastman has a label in the other pocket, but nothing is there and never was...

It's definitely an older jacket, like Burt points out.

The 3 ELCs I own, or have owned, never had the extra tag in the other pocket. That's probably what replaced the white one stitched to the spec tag.

Great find at a great price, man!

 

[bn1966]

Eastman did do goat some years back, tried a goatskin A-2 on in their old Ivybridge premises.

 

[Wz1999]

Hi Rob, I think Eastman uses their own brand pocket snaps on the A2s.

Z

 

[Tattoo A2]

It's definitely an older jacket, like Burt points out.

The 3 ELCs I own, or have owned, never had the extra tag in the other pocket. That's probably what replaced the white one stitched to the spec tag.

Great find at a great price, man!

Heres a pocket label on a newer ELC Steve.

 

[Tattoo A2]

Hi Rob, I think Eastman uses their own brand pocket snaps on the A2s.

Z I will check into that tonight Z.

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[Chandler]

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Heres a pocket label on a newer ELC Steve.

Yeah, I remember when they started using them. Not in my ELCs, though. Vintage repros.

 

[Chandler]

Hi Rob, I think Eastman uses their own brand pocket snaps on the A2s.

Z
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Just looked under the pockets at my '95 -- they were marking the snaps back then, too.

@Tattoo A2

 

[Tattoo A2]

Well dug thru some old boxes and came across this folder I got from ELC back in the mid 90s. I see know according to the sample leather they sent at the time that this jacket is made in the standard color of russet goatskin at that time. As you see in the photos with the sample and the jacket next to each other they are a match. Id say thats a dark russet. Also checked the inside snaps and they are marked the same as yours Z. Emailed Mr. Sellers today to see if he can change the knits and hole for me and just waiting to hear back from him, thanks again for everyones help in this matter.

 

[Chandler]

@Tattoo A2 -- I have that same folder buried in my storage unit somewhere. Pre Golden Book, IIRC.

 

[B-Man2]

Keepsakes better than your high school yearbook !

 

[Tattoo A2]

Keepsakes better than your high school yearbook !

Never made it that far Burt,lol.

 

[Chandler]

Never made it that far Burt,lol.

Now you have -- Repro High!

 

[Tattoo A2]

The High part was most of the problem at the time...lol

 

[Micawber]

That folder and enclosure brings back some memories.

 

[Pa12]

I remember having that too. Don’t know what happened to it. Probably chucked in one of the moves.

 

[Pa12]

Seem to recall having to pay for it too.