422A ???

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  1. Tenfifteen

    Tenfifteen Member

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    Hello,
    I found this G1 on ebay : https://www.ebay.fr/itm/VINTAGE-194...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

    Zipper and cuff/wrist are not original for sure ! Label seems legit, the pockets are strange.. not the same shape (422 style for the curved right hand pocket.. less for the left hand pocket)
    But what about the punch hole "HBL ?" USN lettering appeared during the 50's, what is this marquing ?

    Seems like a frankeinsten jacket or so ?
     
  2. Silver Surfer

    Silver Surfer Well-Known Member

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    1950s-60s civy version would be my guess. whats more, from the looks of it, the zipper and knits are original to the jacket. an interesting jacket, and possibly unique.
     
  3. Grant

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    Flying Equipment out of Chicago made civilian flight jackets (both A-2 and USN) jackets in the 50's/60's.
     
  4. Tenfifteen

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    Sure ? The Zipper looks "modern"... not like talon/Conmar/etc.. and I thought the wist would be rib-rack knitting...
    Aniway, if it's a civil version it could be original (never heard about "flyiing equipment Co." as a military manufacturer ;) )


    burnt :D
     
  5. Grant

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    BTW, the zip and knits are replaced. I've seen these Chicago Flying Equip jackets in NYC vintage shops and recall they had black Conmars. At first glance they fooled me and looked like military issue.
     
  6. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    I agree with Vic here the zipper is an original 1950s one. It was made by Coats and Clark (C&C marked on the puller). I have seen other versions with Talon and Conmar zips and with conventional waistbands and wristlets. There are two varients on John Chapman's Flight Jacket CD. The wristlets and waistband may not be original to the jacket. Flying Equipment Co was a well known maker in the post War period.

    They sold A2s mail order from at least 1947.

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=094DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA301&lpg=PA301&dq="flying+equipment"+chicago+jacket&source=bl&ots=riqxfcegm8&sig=9TW8jYeNBcvbNba-HCzqMdNhg20&hl=en&ei=-vThSpHEMpOwswPKlam7Aw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q="flying equipment" chicago jacket&f=false


    This, from John Chapman, is illuminating about the G-1 jackets produced and sold under the Flying Equipment brand name.

    http://www.goodwearleather.com/pages/sale_flyingequipg1_0001.html
     
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  7. Tenfifteen

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    Thank you all !
    So, no mil. issue here but a nice look and feel by the way !
    That could replace my 1963 Irvin Foster ! I will stay untill the auction end... who knows.. in case it stays a good deal !
     
  8. Tenfifteen

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    Damn... lost it ! The auction ended at 2:50 in France, I had my alarm clock but I arrived 2mn too late :confused:... I still keep my Irvin Foster for a while ^^
     
  9. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    It sold very cheap at $66!
     
  10. Tenfifteen

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    Yes.... shame on me :(
     
  11. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    I always snipe items ending when I'm sleeping!
     
  12. Smithy

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    Somebody did get a very good bargain there. Lovely looking jacket.
     
  13. B-Man2

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    That's a deal/steal!....I'm still waiting for a $66.00 G-1 in size 46.
    Dream on......:rolleyes:
     
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