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What jacket(s) are you wearing at the moment?
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John Luder
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I've contacted them and sent pix of the proper buttons. I had to pay $35 shipping for seven free buttons. And they're the same goddam buttons.
I'll try one more time. If they can't get their shite together, I'll give a fuller review. The jacket is great, but right now, it's a "pasteurize, processed, B-10-type bomber-type" jacket.
Dumpster D
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Ugh, Senseless waste of original trousers, you mean like A-9's. Why?
I'm the guy who winds up with all the discarded 'half a pair of pants' or an original Jacket that's been mutilated, parted out/cannibalized. The buck stops with me.
Just buy a better Repro with the right buttons.
I'd contact some Jacket reproduction manufacturers, to at least track down a source for the correct buttons for my repro B-10's.
Curious. Does MASH online have anything that would match or at least something close?
They must be out there somewhere. I'll phone around, you know?
If anyone could please post a pic of the correct buttons for me, I'd be interested to see if I can find some for sale and report back. Thank you.
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Dumpster D
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I don't know which buttons to look for, as I'm not familiar with B-10 Jackets firsthand. I'll figure it out. Might as well ask what thread type/color etc to use while I'm at it too.
And if you don't know how to do your own sewing by hand, I'm sure youtube is your friend.
Someone else here could check MASH and price them out, if they're on there, and add that to the cost of their repro Jacket and do the upgrade themselves if need be.
It would be interesting to see if the cost of upgrading an el-cheapo repro B-10 jacket by installing the 'correct' type/style buttons, outweighs the cost of just buying a higher quality 'more correcterer' B-10 repro jacket.
Next thing you'll tell me is how the Mouton is all wrong haha!!
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leper-colony
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So we have confirmed we are not the same person. Have a great day.
leper-colony
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Dumpster D
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Could you please post a link for the right buttons on the ATF site if possible? I'm not familiar with B-10 buttons exactly.
All I see are the M43 and Mackinaw buttons.
There's a bunch of MASH Buttons, they're all the 18mm buttons, not sure which are the right color size etc.
The one's on the B-10 that are 'not correct' look like they're just the modern style BDU buttons to me.
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Dumpster D
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Apologies if my tone sounded flippant. It was not my intention to offend in any way.
leper-colony
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Gotcha. There are a couple patterns I have seen. Looking at a nice repro, by JC, this is what he used: https://www.goodwearleather.com/pages/sale_b10_0001.html
Dumpster D
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This is a button on an original pair of Type A9 trousers.
Please let me know if these are true type/color/size of button for a B-10 Jacket or not.
If you think it's worth a try, I could reach out to some different manufacturers of Reproduction Jackets to find a source for these items (Reproduction and/or originals) and report back in due time, if I'm able to find any useful information.
Please let me know if these are true type/color/size of button for a B-10 Jacket or not.
If you think it's worth a try, I could reach out to some different manufacturers of Reproduction Jackets to find a source for these items (Reproduction and/or originals) and report back in due time, if I'm able to find any useful information.
John Luder
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Now, that is the right style and color. Bronson is capable of attaching the right buttons. But they've not made a 44 recently.
John Luder
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I have no idea how to bookmark any given forum or submission, but I screenshot this photo a couple weeks ago.
It's one of our members, who lives in Belgium. He got a 5* B-10 from Shawn, in Berlin.
This is the proper style of button in an acceptable color. Probably 18mm, like the button on my Bronson B-10.
Cheers,
John
It's one of our members, who lives in Belgium. He got a 5* B-10 from Shawn, in Berlin.
This is the proper style of button in an acceptable color. Probably 18mm, like the button on my Bronson B-10.
Cheers,
John
Dumpster D
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Would it be worth contacting Bronson and asking for some of these buttons, or will they just blank on that request and it doesn't work that way?
Be certain, all hope is not yet lost.
I'll try my best to help find these for you. Sometimes all it takes is using the right 'keywords' to narrow the online search down.
Do you know the correct name for the color of the button?
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John Luder
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Thanks. I'm trying to get on ATF's site, but they're either under repair or my computer is screwed. I'll look tomorrow. MASH has some close in color and shape, but I only perused the site. Most packs were about $4 or $17, depending on the number of buttons in a pack.
I've not given up, but am right irritated with the mfgr for failing to respond properly.
It's 2215 in So.Cal, so I'm about to give it up for this evening.
Cheers,
John
I've not given up, but am right irritated with the mfgr for failing to respond properly.
It's 2215 in So.Cal, so I'm about to give it up for this evening.
Cheers,
John
Dumpster D
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Quick ebay search. Hard to say if these would work...They're 'craft' quality, and not exactly specialized items.
( Have to carefully study the photos of the listing before making a decision I guess?)
They're 15mm, and not sure about the 'camel' color tone as a match to the originals. But they're cheap at least.
I'll get cracking tomorrow and see what I can do. Will have to ask around some different Jacket manufacturers and probably get a door slammed in my face more than a few times. Only natural, it's just my wild approach haha!)
(It's permitted to post links to ebay here, right? I hope so)
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John Luder
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Thanks for the efforts. Good idea about ebay. Tomorrow, when my computer isn't crapped out I'll be on it again.
Cheers
Cheers
Dumpster D
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Brief reference guide of B-10 Jacket buttons.
(Incomplete, but enough to give a rough idea of button variation.)
(Please note, I have no experience with B-10 Jackets whatsoever. A wish-list item for many years now. I've never researched them in full detail until this point as a new member of the VLJ forum.)
B-10 Jacket Buttons. It's personal preference, what looks good to you? They're all different!
(The original buttons here, appear quite different compared to the original A9 Trouser button in the above post, so I'm sure original buttons must vary greatly as well)
I'd be curious to ask GW about their original B-10 Jacket buttons. Chance to find a box of NOS buttons that were hiding on a dusty shelf in the back of some old abandoned warehouse or something? In my search just now, I came across a small carton of 250 buttons from WWII for US dress shirts, something like that, you know? Ah the stuff dreams are made of.
Until my blueprints for a flux capacitor are finally realized, we have some modern reproduction options that will have to make do for now.
Just, where to find a public source for these things?!?
Anyway, apologies for the thread derailment, this is the D signing off for now, over and out.
ORIGINAL:
BOB DONG :
BRONSON:
ATF (At the front. Presumably repro on the left and original on the right??) Looks pretty good actually.
COCKPIT:
SUPERIOR TOGS (Buzz Rickson's)
Hope this helps.
(Incomplete, but enough to give a rough idea of button variation.)
(Please note, I have no experience with B-10 Jackets whatsoever. A wish-list item for many years now. I've never researched them in full detail until this point as a new member of the VLJ forum.)
B-10 Jacket Buttons. It's personal preference, what looks good to you? They're all different!
(The original buttons here, appear quite different compared to the original A9 Trouser button in the above post, so I'm sure original buttons must vary greatly as well)
I'd be curious to ask GW about their original B-10 Jacket buttons. Chance to find a box of NOS buttons that were hiding on a dusty shelf in the back of some old abandoned warehouse or something? In my search just now, I came across a small carton of 250 buttons from WWII for US dress shirts, something like that, you know? Ah the stuff dreams are made of.
Until my blueprints for a flux capacitor are finally realized, we have some modern reproduction options that will have to make do for now.
Just, where to find a public source for these things?!?
Anyway, apologies for the thread derailment, this is the D signing off for now, over and out.
ORIGINAL:
BOB DONG :
BRONSON:
ATF (At the front. Presumably repro on the left and original on the right??) Looks pretty good actually.
COCKPIT:
SUPERIOR TOGS (Buzz Rickson's)
Hope this helps.
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Blackboxr1200S
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That would be me...
Button on the 5* is 20mm
Button on the Bronson, same size , but Olive
ties70
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Yes, it is.
the jacket was one of, if not the first, attempt of Shawn to make a copy of the early original AERO he has in his collection.
I was so unsure about his B-3 measurements at that time, that I had him customize it heavily...the jacket turned out a little off, which was entirely my fault...as you can see the sleeves are short (but perfect for me), while the torso turned out to be too wide at the bottom.
The zipper was purchased in Japan and sent to FS before they started the jacket.
Pics are from Shawn & FS.
When it arrived, I was not really happy with the reddish shearling, so I re-dyed it myself (with Fiebig's Moccasin Brown). The waist belts got added holes and were attached a little to the back, so I can now close the jacket tighter.
I think that the improvements are significant...
Ties
