Willis and Geiger M-422A contract question

[bazelot]

I just bought a Willis and Geiger M-422A in great shape and I have a question about the contract number. Picture is really bad but that's all I got from the seller. Contrcat is not the regular 290 designation. Once Deeb7 said "other W & G M422 contracts are N156s 16957, and Nos 85956." I assume this one is the 85956 contract. I had never heard of that contract before. Does anyone have any info on that particular contract?

 

[Roughwear]

Tom, the Willis and Geiger M422A 85956 contract was the first contract awarded to any maker for M422A jackets in the 1941 fiscal year. W&G had just two further M442A contracts in 1943 NOS 290A and NXS 290. In 1940 they had been awarded two contracts for M422 jackets-N156s 16957 and Nos 74892. These both had shorter sleeves. I hope this helps.

 

[bazelot]

Thanks. That really helps. There must not be that many of them as i had never seen one.

 

[Maverickson]

Tom, the Willis and Geiger M422A 85956 contract was the first contract awarded to any maker for M422A jackets in the 1941 fiscal year. W&G had just two further M442A contracts in 1943 NOS 290A and NXS 290. In 1940 they had been awarded two contracts for M422 jackets-N156s 16957 and Nos 74892. These both had shorter sleeves. I hope this helps.

Thanks for clarifying those contract numbers Andrew!

While we are at it, there has been a list of USN flight jacket contacts floating around the Forum for quite sometime. Besides not having the dates for those contracts on this list, I've always known that list of flight jackets and their makers was incomplete. Andrew, I've included your additional suggestions for those two Willis & Geiger contracts to that list. In addition, I've added one of my own for an additional Cagleco G-1 contract. I've seen it come up for time to time and that particular Cagleco contract usually has larger sized jackets.

PHARR BRAND NAME APPAREL SP0100-04-D-4247-0001 MIL-J-7823E(AS)
EXCELLED SHEEPSKIN & LEATHER COAT CO. SP0 100-04-4119 MIL-J-7823E(AS)
EXCELLED SHEEPSKIN & LEATHER COAT CO. SPO 100-99-D-5076-0001 MIL-J-7823E(AS)
SCHOTT BROS., INC. SPO100-98-C-5015 MIL-J-7823E(AS)
COOPER SPORTSWEAR MFG. CO., INC SPO-100-96-C-4015 MIL-J-7823E
COOPER SPORTSWEAR MFG. CO., INC SPO-100-95-M-SH82 MIL-J-7823E
COOPER SPORTSWEAR MFG. CO. INC DLA100-92-C-0454 MIL-J-7823E(AS)
COOPER SPORTSWEAR MFG. CO., INC DLA100-91-C-0323 MIL-J-7823E(AS)
COOPER SPORTSWEAR MFG. CO., INC DLA100-89-C-0480 MIL-J-7823E(AS)
BRILL BROS., INC. DLA100-87-C-0739
ORCHARD M/C DIST. INC. DLA100-86-C-0481 MIL-J-7823E(AS)
BRILL BROS., INC. DLA100-86-C-0451 MIL-J-7823E (AS)
RALPH EDWARDS SPORTSWEAR, INC. DLA100-84-C-0771 MIL-J-7823E (AS)
BRILL BROS., INC. DLA100-82-C-0564 MIL-J-7823E (AS)
RALPH EDWARDS SPORTSWEAR, INC. DSA100-77-C-1518 MIL-J-7823E (AS)
FERGUSON OF OKLAHOMA DSA100-76-C-1788 MIL-J-7823E(AS)
IMPERIAL LEATHER & SPORTSWEAR INC. DSA100-76-C-1788 MIL-J-7823E(AS)
IMPERIAL LEATHER & SPORTSWEAR INC. DSA100-76-C-0375 MIL - J 7823E(AS)
BRILL BROS., INC. DSA100-75-C-0332 MIL-J-7823E (AS)
STAR SPORTSWEAR MFG. CORP. DSA100-75-C-0331 MIL-J-7823E(AS)
IMPERIAL FASHIONS, INC. DSA100-74-0162 MIL-J-7823E(AS)
BRILL BROS., INC. DSA-73-C-0035 MIL-J-7823E (AS)
STAR SPORTSWEAR MFG. CORP. DSA100-73-C-0034 MIL-J-7823E(AS)
BRILL BROS., INC. DSA-72-C1138 MIL-J-7823E (AS)
STAR SPORTSWEAR MFG. CORP. DSA100-72-C-0060 MIL-J-7823E(AS)
BRILL BROS., INC. DSA 100-71-C-1343 MIL-J-7823E (AS)
STAR SPORTSWEAR MFG.CO. DSA100-71-C-0535 MIL-J-7823D(WP)
BRILL BROS., INC. DSA 100-71-C-0141 MIL-J-7823C(WP)
RALPH EDWARDS SPORTSWEAR, INC. NONE ON TAG MIL-J-7823E (AS)
BRILL BROS., INC. DSA 100-70-C-0484 MIL-J-7823D(WP)
STAR SPORTSWEAR MFG. CORP. DSA100-70-C-0483 MIL-J-7823D(WP)
STAR SPORTSWEAR MFG. CORP. DSA 100-70-C-0475 MIL-J-7823D(WP)
THE MARTIN LANE CO., INC. DSA 100-69-C-1545 MIL-J-7823D (WP)
BRILL BROS., INC. DSA 100-68-C-1805 MIL-J-7823D (WP)
STAR SPORTSWEAR MFG. CORP. DSA 100-68-C-0759 MIL-J-7823D (WP)
THE MARTIN LANE CO., INC. DSA 100-68-C-0099 MIL-J-7823D (WP)
GREGORY SPORTSWEAR INC. CONTRACT NO. DSA 100-67-C-3929 SPEC.MIL-J-7823D(WEP)
GREGORY SPORTSWEAR INC. CONTRACT NO. DSA 100-67-C-3928 SPEC.MIL-J-7823D(WEP)
RALPH EDWARDS SPRTSWEAR, INC. CONTRACT NO. DSA-1-5366 SPEC.MIL-J-7823D (WEP)
STAR SPORTSWEAR MFG. CORP. DSA 100-67-C-1095 SPEC.MIL-J-7823D(WEP)
IRVIN B. FOSTER SPTSWEAR CO. CONTRACT NO. DSA-1-8826 SPEC.MIL-J-7823C (WEP)
IRVIN B. FOSTER SPTSWEAR CO. CONTRACT NO. DSA-1-8825 SPEC.MIL-J-7823C (WEP)
IRVIN B. FOSTER SPTSWEAR CO. CONTRACT NO. DSA-10003081 SPEC.MIL-J-7823C (WEP)
IRVIN B. FOSTER SPTSWEAR CO. CONTRACT NO. DSA-100-598 SPEC.MIL-J-7823C (WEP)
RALPH EDWARDS SPRTSWEAR, INC. CONTRACT NO. DSA-1-4342-64-C SPEC.MIL-J-7823C (WEP)
RALPH EDWARDS SPRTSWEAR, INC. CONTRACT NO. DSA-1-9365 SPEC.MIL-J-7823C (WEP)
STAR SPORTSWEAR MFG. CORP. CONTRACT NO. DSA-1-3271-64-C SPEC.MIL-J-7823C (WEP) W/E
STAR SPORTSWEAR MFG. CORP. CONTRACT NO. DSA 100-599 SPEC.MIL-J-7823C (WEP)
IRVIN B. FOSTER SPTSWEAR CO. CONTRACT NO. DSA-1-2071-63-C SPEC.MIL-J-7823B(WEP)
RALPH EDWARDS SPORTSWEAR, INC. CONTRACT NO.DSA- -1040-63-C SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823B(WEP)
IRVIN B. FOSTER SPTSWEAR CO. CONTRACT NO. DSA-1-435-C-62 SPEC.MIL-J-7823B(WEP)
RALPH EDWARDS SPORTSWEAR, INC. CONTRACT NO. QM(CTM) 10276-C-61 SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823B(WEP)
IRVIN B.FOSTER&SONS SPORTSWEAR CO., INC. CONTRACT NO. DA 36-243-QM(CTM)8834-C-61 SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823A(AER)
RALPH EDWARDS SPORTSWEAR, INC. CONTRACT NO. QM(CTM)8833C-61 SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823A(AER)
BREIER OF AMSTERDAM, INC. QM(CTM)6837-C-60 SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823(AER)
CALIFORNIA SPORTSWEAR COMPANY CONTRACT #QM(CTM)4771-E-60 SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823 (AER)
CAGLECO SPORTSWEAR CONT QM(CTM)-144-O.I.-2515-E-57 SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823 (AER)
CAGLECO SPORTSWEAR CONTRACT NO N383-48082A SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823 (AER)
CAGLECO SPORTSWEAR CONTRACT NO N383-39321A SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823 (AER)
CAGLECO SPORTSWEAR CONTRACT NO N383-28657A SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823 (AER)
CAGLECO SPORTSWEAR CONTRACT NO N383s-14722A SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823 (AER)
CAGLECO SPORTSWEAR CONTRACT NO N383s-9211A SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823 (AER)
J.A.DUBOW SPORTING GOODS CORP. CONTRACT NO. N383S-4833A SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823 (AER)
J.A.DUBOW SPORTING GOODS CORP. CONTRACT NO. N383S-4765A SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823 (AER)
L.W. FOSTER SPORTSWEAR CO, INC. CONTRACT N383-22356A SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823(AER) & AMEND. #2
L.W. FOSTER SPORTSWEAR CO., INC. CONTRACT NO.DA-36-243-QM(CTM)2312 SPECIFICATION NO. MIL-J-7823(AER)
L.W.FOSTER SPORTSWEAR CO., INC CONTRACT NO. DA-36-243-QM(CTM)2134 SPECIFICATION NO. MIL-J-7823(AER)
L.W.FOSTER SPORTSWEAR CO., INC CONTRACT NO.N383s-74471 SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823(AER)
MONARCH MFG. CO. CONTRACT NO. N383s-80667 SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823 (AER)
RALPH EDWARDS SPORTSWEAR CONTRACT NO. QM.(CTM)-2313 SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823 (AER)
WERBER SPORTSWEAR, INC. CONTRACT NO.383S-88886 SPECIFICATION MIL-J-7823(AER)
A. PRITZKER & SONS, INC. CONTRACT NO.N383S-69537 SPEC. 55J14 (AER)
AVIATORS CLOTHING CO., INC. CONTRACT NO. N-383s-22111 SPEC. 55J14(AER)
B.-G. INC. CONTRACT NO. 383s-25923 SPEC. 55J14 (AER)
BURJAC SPORTSWEAR INC. CONTRACT No N383s-5299 SPECIFICATION 55J14 (AER)
L.W.FOSTER SPORTSWEAR CO. INC. CONTRACT NO.N-383s-96273 SPEC. 55J14 (AER)
L.W.FOSTER SPORTSWEAR CO. INC. CONTRACT NO. N383s-13120 SPEC. 55J14 (AER)
L.W.FOSTER SPORTSWEAR CO. INC. CONTRACT NO. N383s-20445 SPEC. 55J14 (AER)
STAR SPORTSWEAR MFG.CO. LYNN, MASS. CONTRACT NO. N383S-39943 SPEC. 55J14 (AER)
STAR SPORTSWEAR MFG.CO. LYNN, MASS. CONTRACT NO. N383S-51863 SPEC. 55J14 (AER)
BURJAC SPORTSWEAR INC. CONTRACT #N288s-24369 SPECIFICATION AN-J3A
BURJAC SPORTSWEAR INC. CONTRACT #N288s-24368 SPECIFICATION AN-J3A
L.W.FOSTER SPORTSWEAR CO.INC. CONT. NO. N383s1035 AN-J-3a
MONARCH MFG.CO. MILWAUKEE CONTRACT NO. N288s-20570 SPECIFICATION AN-J-3A
MONARCH MFG. CO. MILWAUKEE CONTRACT NO. N288S-28665 SPECIFICATION AN-J-3A
ARNOFF MFG. COMPANY CONTRACT NO. N288 S-24248 TYPE AN-J-3A
WILLIS AND GEIGER INC. CONTRACT-N288s-35805 SPEC. AN-J-3A
AMERICAN SPORTSWEAR CO. CONTRACT NO.N288s-28628 AN 6552
AMERICAN SPORTSWEAR CO. CONTRACT NO.N288s-23627 AN 6552
AMERICAN SPORTSWEAR CO. CONTRACT NO.N288s-24332 AN 6552
BOGEN & TENENBAUM CONTRACT NO. N 288s32281 AN 6552-42
BOGEN & TENENBAUM Contract No. N 288s24333 AN 6552-40
WILLIS AND GEIGER INC. CONTRACT -N288S32357 AN 6552-38
WILLIS AND GEIGER INC. CONTRACT -N288S28628 AN 6552-40
H.& L.BLOCK CONTRACT NO.N288s-20559 AN 6552
EDMUND T.CHURCH CO. INC. CONTRACT No. NXs-5133 SPECIFICATION M - 422 A
FRIED, OSTERMAN CO. CONTRACT NO. 1405-A SPECIFICATION M - 422 A
FRIED, OSTERMAN CO. CONTRACT NO. 1406 EXT.A SPECIFICATION M - 422 A
GORDON & FERGUSON CO. CONTRACT NO. 88860 SPECIFICATION M 422A
GORDON & FERGUSON CO. CONTRACT NO. NXs.416-A SPECIFICATION M-422 A
GORDON & FERGUSON CO. CONTRACT NO. NXs.416 SPECIFICATION M-422 A
H.&L. BLOCK CONTRACT No. Nxsa-5134 SPECIFICATION M-422a
WILLIS AND GEIGER INC. CONTRACT-Nos.290A SPECIFICATION M 422A
WILLIS AND GEIGER INC. CONTRACT-N Xs-290 SPECIFICATION M 422A
WILLIS AND GEIGER INC. CONTRACT-No.85956 SPECIFICATION M 422A
WILLIS AND GEIGER INC. CONTRACT-No. S-74892 SPECIFICATION M 422
WILLIS AND GEIGER INC. CONTRACT-No.156S-16957 SPECIFICATION M 422
Monarch Mfg. Company CONTRACT-No. 79633 SPECIFICATION M-422

I'm certain that there are a few more contracts out there that are missing from this list!

Cheers, Dave

 

[Roughwear]

All the contracts with dates are in Full Gear Dave.

 

[tibor]

Is "Full Gear" a book, or a website?

 

[Grant]

"Full Gear" is a book self-published by Aota Mituhiro in 2005.

He also has a website: http://www.fullgear.net/index

 

[tibor]

Thanks for the info. Looks very good but unfortunately sold out.

 

[Grant]

Yes, because Aota self-published it was a limited edition so he sold out quickly. It really was a labor of love (and it shows by the quality).
If you keep your eyes out on ebay, copies do surface now and then.

 

[Falcon_52]

I bought my copy of Full Gear from Berliner Zinnfiguren but it looks like they are also sold out. I know that Powell's bookstore in Portland sometimes gets some rare/unusual used books so you may want to take a look at their inventory periodically.

 

[Silver Surfer]

aota has purchased a coupla original a-2s from me over the years, and during our negotiations, i had asked him if he ever had plans to issue a "full gear" book in english. unfortunately, his answer was no. further more, at the time, he said that he had no intention of producing a second printing. i would imagine that if there was enough interest to make a second printing worth while, he might reconsider. though the book is a bench mark reference for wwll [and pre and post wwll] gear, there are a couple of errors. nothing major, as the info is thoroughly researched for the most part. i recommend "full gear" for any serious collector. btw: the book was not cheap, and likely even a second hand copy will cost coin.

 

[Grant]

Aota also self-published a book on just vintage zippers titled appropriately: Zipper Gear.
Another must have book for any vintage clothing geek!

 

[tibor]

Could anyone with the Full Gear book check and let me know the contract dates for the Edmund Church M-422A NXs-5133?