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The Aero 15142P Seventy Eight Years Later.

B-Man2

Well-Known Member
Hey Guys :)
Its been a slow Sunday sitting around doing nothing so I thought that I would do a quick comparison of the original Aero of Beacon NY 15142P contract and the same repro of that jacket made 78 years later by Aero of Scotland . First off before we get started, a little disclaimer just for clarification purposes. This posting is simply to show some of the similarities and differences between the original A2 of that contract and the repro of the same contract, for those of us who may not have had an opportunity to see or handle an original Aero A2 jacket .It is in no way a negative summation on the accuracy or quality of Aero of Scotland’s efforts at reproducing the original Aero 15142P jacket .
Now with that in mind let’s begin.
The original Aero 15142P contract was awarded to Aero Leather Clothing Company of Beacon NY, on March 28th, 1942. The contract called for 50,000 A2 jackets to be delivered to the USAAF at a price of $8.25 per jacket . At a total contract price of $412,500. This was the sixth of seven contracts issued to Aero Leather. While the original contract was for Horsehide there is a great deal of consensus that cowhide was used on this contract as well. At this point let me credit Gary Eastman of Eastman Leather Company for his amazing research and his book “Type A2 Flight Jacket Identification Manual “ If you haven’t purchased this book yet, I suggest you put it on your Christmas List to Santa as it is probably the best book available today on the A2 Flight Jacket . Now pictured below are the original and repro of the 15142P jacket being reviewed .
ORIGINAL

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REPRODUCTION
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ORIGINAL
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REPRODUCTION
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Both jackets are a size 46 so when we get to the measurements section, that makes it easy for us to compare the wartime size with the current day reproduction size.

COLLAR
This contract in its original form was made without a collar stand . Similarly the Aero of Scotland repro was also made without a collar stand . The collars of both jackets are just about identical in size and dimensions.
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ZIPS
Interestingly this contract jacket came with the possibility of 3 different zips . An M-41 Crown . An M-41 Model Talon and an M-40 Kwik Fantail zip. The original here has the M-41 Talon and the repro has a repro of that zip.
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SNAPS
The original contract has large ring stud snaps by United Carr. The repro has large ring stud snaps that are approximate reproductions of the United Carr snaps and work very well.
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Silver Surfer

Well-Known Member
just gotta, Burt. an issue I have with the aero repros vs originals, and its small at that, is that they make the leather bottom front zipper tab too short. this then makes the waistband too short, giving the repro aeros an overly boxy look.
 

B-Man2

Well-Known Member
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COLLAR HARDWARE
Once again Aero has done a nice job in duplicating the collar hardware from the original 15142P. Kudos on this detail .
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POCKETS AND POCKET FLAPS
The size and location of the pockets and flaps are very close to the original 15142P pockets . The stitch patterns are nearly spot on.
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KNITS
The original knits on the original jacket have been replaced with the incorrect knits so no comparison is possible however , just a comment on the repro rust knits . The original 15142P contract also had a combination of different knits to include rust knits similar to the 21996 contract so rust knits on this repro are correct .
CONCLUSIONS
The Aero jacket 78 years later is a good quality top tier repo . This one is made from Vicenza Horsehide, which ironically while being a great hide is probably the biggest difference between the original A2 and the repro of this jacket .
I hoped you guys enjoyed the comparison . Looking forward to hearing your comments.
cheers
 
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B-Man2

Well-Known Member
just gotta, Burt. an issue I have with the aero repros vs originals, and its small at that, is that they make the leather bottom front zipper tab too short. this then makes the waistband too short, giving the repro aeros an overly boxy look.
Valid point Vic .

Could you please reposition your post so that the entire article is in one complete continuous post .
Thanks
 

mulceber

Moderator
These are some sweet jackets, Burt. The Aero repro looks great, but damn that original is spectacular. What are the measurements on the two?
 

B-Man2

Well-Known Member
Damn! :mad:
I knew I forgot something . Hang on Jan .:)
Reproduction Aero
Shoulders ...... 19.25 inches
Pits .................24 inches
Arms.................25.5 inches
Rear collar seam down back ... 26.25 inches

Original Aero
Shoulders ........ 19.25 inches
Pits.............,..,.24.75 inches
Arms ..............,.25.5 inches
Rear collar seam down back .....26.75 inches.

Pretty close and I’d attribute the differences to 78 years of stretching of leather and knits.
 

YoungMedic

Well-Known Member
BTW I did ask Santa for the A2 ID manual this year but, is there an answer to this question: Is there a total timeline included in the bid information? Im curious how many jackets they were turning out per day with the quality control that always seems to arise out of Repro V Original. Not to begrudge the original makers but maybe even to affirm the high (or low?) standards of production at the time
 

mulceber

Moderator
BTW I did ask Santa for the A2 ID manual this year but, is there an answer to this question: Is there a total timeline included in the bid information? Im curious how many jackets they were turning out per day with the quality control that always seems to arise out of Repro V Original. Not to begrudge the original makers but maybe even to affirm the high (or low?) standards of production at the time

I'd like to know this as well. Unfortunately Eastman's guide doesn't have anything on that, iirc.
 

B-Man2

Well-Known Member
BTW I did ask Santa for the A2 ID manual this year but, is there an answer to this question: Is there a total timeline included in the bid information? Im curious how many jackets they were turning out per day with the quality control that always seems to arise out of Repro V Original. Not to begrudge the original makers but maybe even to affirm the high (or low?) standards of production at the time
Tim
I want to make sure I understand your question . Are you asking how long it took to produce an A2 jacket from start to finish ?
 

YoungMedic

Well-Known Member
I am wondering when they started and ended production on the 50,000 jacket conrtact. (purely speculating) April 1 - Aug 1 would be 122 ish days = roughly 400 jackets per day. So were they turning out 100 per day or 1,000 ? It would be a testament to the quality control and construction standards of the original jackets to know what the turnout rate was like
 
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