Shipping wrinkles

[zoomer]

An individual I am doing business with claims a horse A-2 has wrinkled in shipping. Said individual implies the wrinkles will not come out. What's your experience?

 

[Silver Surfer]

at my age.....the wrinkles will not come out. opps, you were writing about jackets. yeah they come come out. no biggie. usually when someone has beef about a received jacket, its a] buyer remorse,, b] it doesn't "fit" as expected, c] can get it cheaper [maybe] [see d] elsewhere, d] wanting to weasel a lower price. and on it goes. nutz

 

[zoomer]

I did find this. https://www.threadsmagazine.com/2019/12/25/qa-how-to-remove-creases-from-leather

 

[asiamiles]

Surely a jacket shouldn't have developed unsightly wrinkles during the the time it takes to ship, and more minor wrinkles are simply natural. It definitely sounds to me like the buyer has an agenda. Ask for pics, and depending on your situation offer him the option of returning the jacket at his expense.

 

[Flightengineer]

Paul, I agree with Vic.
We all know that any shipping wrinkles are smoothed out easy in short time after wearing. Your customer either sees a leather jacket for the first time or has something in mind

 

[Micawber]

I did find this. https://www.threadsmagazine.com/2019/12/25/qa-how-to-remove-creases-from-leather

I agree with what has been said already but wouldn't refer your buyer to that article, the mention of using an iron gives me the shivers, it lso shifts the onus of their mistakes onto you. Just tell them to wear or return it.

 

[robrinay]

As others have said above ‘sale or return’ is best in these circumstances. Follow the ‘eBay type’ rules. Ask him to post it back at his expense tracked. Do not ask him to iron it as there’s a high risk of damage and the advice will suggest you agree it’s wrinkled. He’s clearly changed his mind as anyone who wanted the jacket would wear it and put their own patina, wrinkles and stretch marks into it. And don’t refund him until you’ve got it back and have inspected it. A mate of mine had a similar problem and her buyer had clearly bought it for a party worn it to impress and then returned it for a refund untracked and it disappeared en route. Sadly for the buyer as they didn’t sent it back tracked eBay came out on my mates side of the issue and so my mate kept the money and the buyer had no jacket.

 

[zoomer]

Thanks for all your advice...it seems the problem might not be all that insoluble. I will share it with the individual in question.

 

[Bombing IP]

Is the guy a member on the forum , I suspect no .Is this guy a friend of Heisenburg by any chance ? ,seems to me he is trying to pull a fast one ..

Jeff

 

[mulceber]

Is the guy a member on the forum , I suspect no .Is this guy a friend of Heisenburg by any chance ? ,seems to me he is trying o pull a fast one ..

Jeff

Follow-up question: is that guy Heisenberg himself by any chance?

 

[ausreenactor]

An individual I am doing business with claims a horse A-2 has wrinkled in shipping. Said individual implies the wrinkles will not come out. What's your experience?

If the buyer is from Belgium, don't issue a refund or say to send the jacket back!

Did they ask you to ship it in preference to any other option?

Its on the buyer.... "wear the piss out of it"!

 

[CBI]

................the seemingly ever growing challenge of selling via a more casual format.................

 

[ausreenactor]

Follow-up question: is that guy Heisenberg himself by any chance?

Surely not... Who would even engage with him these days...?

 

[mulceber]

Nobody who was following Foster’s thread, but I wasn’t sure if Zoomer had been staying up to date with that fiasco.

 

[Smithy]

The whole wrinkles from shipping thing, is one of two things in this case: 1) Anally retentive, pedantic buyer; 2) Buyer for whatever reason has changed his mind for whatever reason and is trying to get out of the sale.

Case 1 is always terrible because these are the kinds of arseholes who get measuring tapes out and complain to high Heaven when something is two mms out of whack, or announce "there's a scratch on it!" which turns out to be a 2mm long mark in the depths of the armpit which is a natural mark on the hide from the animal. Not always possible but if warning signs during the sales process give these pricks a wide berth.

Case 2, well wrinkles from shipping happen and 99.99% of the time fall out with wear especially on goat, sheepskins, even cow and horse. The only hide I've seen where it can take an excessively long time is very, very thick stuff like Horween's CXL horse and steer hides. Saying that I have a Barnstormer in thick CXL FQHH which had a few wrinkles from shipping, I can't even remember what happened to them, whether they fell out or if they're some of the wrinkles the coat now has.

 

[ausreenactor]

Very 'Raphael' thing to do......

Feeling for you. I had a GW/DD in a box for almost five years... would have been a bit rich to raise the issue.... if it in fact had wrinkled.... which it had not!

Agree 100% with Burt. Change of mind through fit, finish or finances....

Good luck with it...

 

[foster]

Tell this individual that those 'wrinkles' are called 'grain' and it's supposed to be desirable in a horsehide A-2.

Good chance there is someone else who will want this specifically for that reason.

And yes, the attitude of this individual does sound disturbingly familiar...

 

[Bombing IP]

Reminds me of the old joke . Whats the best thing to come out of a penis ?


the wrinkles !

Jeff

 

[Silver Surfer]

hahahahahahahahahahaahahha

 

[ShanghaiJack]

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