its' definitely worth it.
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sam walker's copy of aero highwayman size 46, black £75 BIN!
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Crazy price ..... somebody hit the BIN !!
Aero are still clearing the last of the Sam Walker stock at £200.00.
http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/weba ... rodid=3386
Aero are still clearing the last of the Sam Walker stock at £200.00.
http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/weba ... rodid=3386
m444uk
Active Member
The wholesale price on these seems to be $125 ??
http://www.dailytrader.com/all_dropship ... 0-7-1.html
http://www.dailytrader.com/all_dropship ... 0-7-1.html
this website is a directory and gets products offered by other sites, aero for example and turns the £ to $. that sam walker in size 36 was actually on aero website for £125, i remember it.
http://www.dailytrader.com/wholesalers_ ... 70104.html
http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/weba ... rodid=3010
http://www.dailytrader.com/wholesalers_ ... 70107.html
http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/weba ... prodid=986
http://www.dailytrader.com/wholesalers_ ... 70104.html
http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/weba ... rodid=3010
http://www.dailytrader.com/wholesalers_ ... 70107.html
http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/weba ... prodid=986
m444uk said:
I have one of the Sam Walker Highwaymans, and I believe that Aero made it, though I've had some opposition in previous posts.
Aero still have several examples on sale, in a variety of styles, and with the similar to Aero, Sam Walker label .... I assume that it's the last of the stock, now that Sam Walker has closed.
m444uk said:
id say it's the latter rather than the former.
they couldn't list a £1000 jacket on their site
http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/weba ... prodid=986
and list it again for $1000 in the other site!
http://www.dailytrader.com/wholesalers_ ... 70107.html
deeb7 said:
as far as i know, the sam walker shop in covent garden did stock aero jackets at some point, used and new. i was told by someone who bought his highwayman from sam walker, if they wanted, they could bring back their jacket after wearing them and get a new one! obviously there was demand for worn, broken aero jackets. im pretty sure once i saw an aero highwayman jacket with the white tag inside the pocket saying made for sam walker. i guess they kept track of those made for sam walker.
but then sam walker started copying some of the aero jackets and putting their own label on them, highwayman, halfbelt, vest de rallye etc. i haven't seen sam walker a2 or motorcycle jackets
Vcruiser
Well-Known Member
deeb7 said:
In order to find an seemingly indisputable source..you'd need to search the archives of the Classic 20th forum...I suppose..or contact Aero directly and perhaps talk to Will. All I remember was Ken Calder stating the fact that his relationship with Sam Walker soured when they started duplicating Aero's jackets. Right from the horses mouth....
Van
Vcruiser
Well-Known Member
deeb7 said:
David...
I am trying to copy several posts from Theclassictwentieth confirming my statements...but my computer is running so slow this morning that it isn't easy. I do hope this is appropiate! Stay tuned... Van
RE: [TheClassic20th] Re: Pirate Highwayman
Adam
I've never seen a US Horsehide that looked like a Highwayman, no more like one than some of the Oxfors St copies anyway. We based the jacket on the old 50's British Rockers/Sid Vicious "Highwayman" (made by Lewis maybe?) see Rin Tanaka's book....and then fiddled, tweaked and Americanised the styling and make-up
Ended up looking as different from the first sample jacket in 1983 to the final style we make today, as Michael Jackson does from the Jackson Five days to today....or put it another way
Looks as different as the Scotland X1 circa 1967 does when compared to our 2002 team, but in the case of the Highwayman at least we've gone in the right direction
Ken
PS May I add the following........"What an absoloute piece of sh*t Sam Walkers Jackets are.......... I'd sooner wear an Eastman!"
-----Original Message-----
From: hpalapdog [mailto:m444uk@...]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 4:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TheClassic20th] Re: Pirate Highwayman
--- In TheClassic20th@y..., "aerolthrusa" <AeroLthrUSA@a...>
wrote:
> --- In TheClassic20th@y..., "hpalapdog" <m444uk@a...> wrote:
> > Surprised to see one of these Stateside the Sam Walker
shop is
> > in London.
> >
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... m=21326446
> > 95
> >
> > adam
>
**********************************************************************
***
> Hi Adam
>
> Is that one of ours, relabeled?
>
> Mark
> Aero Leather USA
No Mark they make them in London from what I understand.In
fact the shop is full of jackets copied from various Transatlantic
Aero styles,a completely pointless exercise for the consumer as
the copies are more expensive than the Aero originals.Mind you
the true originals are vintage of course,horsehide jackets very
similar to the Aero Highwayman can be found on Ebay etc.with a
bit of searching.
adam
Vcruiser
Well-Known Member
Re: Aero Clone ??
--- In TheClassic20th@y..., "aeroleather" <aero.leather@v...> wrote:
> --- In TheClassic20th@y..., "aaronspalton" <m442a@h...> wrote:
> > Hello ken,
> >
> > Out shopping today I came across a shop called sam west in
central
> > london.They sell a jacket that looks just like the highwayman.Its
> > made of steer in black,cordovan and brown and called I think air
> > togs,do you in fact make them ?I asked the guy and he said they
> > copied the aero highwayman and got them made in east London !It
> looks
> > like an aero product apart from the large brass talon zip.
> >
> > Aaron
>
> Hi Aaron,
>
> Could it be Sam Walker?? or perhaps they've changed their name.
> This place is a seriously dodgy store, they've passed of these in
the
> past as made for them by Aero, obviously a close examination is all
> it takes to spot the difference, They also were the first outfit in
> the UK to use Daisyhide for their "Horse" jackets,
> Sam Walker used to stock Aero in a big way in the early 90's, but
> when we caught them parallel trading our jackets in Japan we
stopped
> supplying them.
> We'd put a clause in their contract that sales to Japan weren't on,
> and knew we wouldn't stand for it.
> Their answer was to copy every jacket we made, reprint their
> catalogue swaping Aero Logos for Sam Walker and changing the style
> names i.e Highwayman / Highwayrider, Longshoremam / Dockshoreman,
> Barnstormer / Barnflier, etc etc
> Nice folk :>)
>
> Ken
Aaron/Ken/All,
Yep it's still called Sam Walker.Their in the street opposite
American Classics in Covent Garden.Its another case, I'm afraid to
say, of a copy costing more than the original.Even their "sale"
prices are higher than the Aero originals they are copied from !
I'm surprized Ken hasn't paid them a visit with a couple of Glasgow
heavies in tow.Bring down a wicker man,put them in, and I imagine you
could get a nice warm inferno going.
adam
--- In TheClassic20th@y..., "aeroleather" <aero.leather@v...> wrote:
> --- In TheClassic20th@y..., "aaronspalton" <m442a@h...> wrote:
> > Hello ken,
> >
> > Out shopping today I came across a shop called sam west in
central
> > london.They sell a jacket that looks just like the highwayman.Its
> > made of steer in black,cordovan and brown and called I think air
> > togs,do you in fact make them ?I asked the guy and he said they
> > copied the aero highwayman and got them made in east London !It
> looks
> > like an aero product apart from the large brass talon zip.
> >
> > Aaron
>
> Hi Aaron,
>
> Could it be Sam Walker?? or perhaps they've changed their name.
> This place is a seriously dodgy store, they've passed of these in
the
> past as made for them by Aero, obviously a close examination is all
> it takes to spot the difference, They also were the first outfit in
> the UK to use Daisyhide for their "Horse" jackets,
> Sam Walker used to stock Aero in a big way in the early 90's, but
> when we caught them parallel trading our jackets in Japan we
stopped
> supplying them.
> We'd put a clause in their contract that sales to Japan weren't on,
> and knew we wouldn't stand for it.
> Their answer was to copy every jacket we made, reprint their
> catalogue swaping Aero Logos for Sam Walker and changing the style
> names i.e Highwayman / Highwayrider, Longshoremam / Dockshoreman,
> Barnstormer / Barnflier, etc etc
> Nice folk :>)
>
> Ken
Aaron/Ken/All,
Yep it's still called Sam Walker.Their in the street opposite
American Classics in Covent Garden.Its another case, I'm afraid to
say, of a copy costing more than the original.Even their "sale"
prices are higher than the Aero originals they are copied from !
I'm surprized Ken hasn't paid them a visit with a couple of Glasgow
heavies in tow.Bring down a wicker man,put them in, and I imagine you
could get a nice warm inferno going.
adam
Wow ... thanks so much for the research, Van. I get the impression that there's more to this story behind the scenes, especially with Aero now selling off the product.
It still leaves me with questions, but the cherry red, Sam Walker Highwayman, can now join my BR MA-1 with the too short sleeves ... on my sales rack.
It still leaves me with questions, but the cherry red, Sam Walker Highwayman, can now join my BR MA-1 with the too short sleeves ... on my sales rack.
m444uk
Active Member
deeb7 said:
Well, your Sam Walker jacket maybe one of those made by Aero.
Van's cut and paste includes a couple of posts by me signed adam from 2002.
I only visited Walker's shop once and at that time they appeared to sell only copies.
I don't know if Aero resumed supply when Ken Calder left Aero but if you
email a photo to the Calder's shop on ebay they may be able to tell who made it.
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/the-original-thr ... ksid=p3686
Vcruiser
Well-Known Member
deeb7 said:
Well..I certainly didn't want to pass along misinformation..but for some reason..recollection of that bit of discussion seemed to stick with me. Of course Ken wasn't much of one to mince words...but I do think some of those opinions can be taken with a grain of salt.
I'm sure that there is more to the story...the rest of the story. However,I don't recall anymore details discussed or revealed. Don't know if I'd dump a jacket just because of this critique,though. If you like it and consider that it's put together well enough..then that's what counts,afterall. When loyaltist see thier favorite being replicated..perhaps unfairly...they may tend to throw unfavorable judgements around,ya know. We've seen it before.....
Van
