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Help identifying a patch
- Thread starter jonnyboy
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Silver Dollar
New Member
It looks like it would belong to some king of fighter squadron that flew P38's. If you can get a good head on shot of the patch it would be very helpful.
jonnyboy
Member
Hi Silver Dollar,
Thanks for the reply - I thought it looked like a P-38. Unfortunately, I found the photo online, so I don't have any better shots. The website it's on (and the museum it's at) is this:
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/photos ... 289&page=6
It's a shame the shot is so blurry and doesn't show much detail.
Cheers,
Jon
Thanks for the reply - I thought it looked like a P-38. Unfortunately, I found the photo online, so I don't have any better shots. The website it's on (and the museum it's at) is this:
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/photos ... 289&page=6
It's a shame the shot is so blurry and doesn't show much detail.
Cheers,
Jon
Silver Dollar
New Member
Let me take a look through some pictures. I live only 2 1/2 hours away from the museum and I'm there a couple of times a month. If I haven't got a pic of it now, I'll go look and see what I can find on my next visit, possibly next week. Give me a little time and I'll try to help.
Silver Dollar
New Member
Aw shucks. 
Not a problem. All I need is a little time. If I can wangle it, I'll be up there on Thursday the 22 of April. It all depends on a meeting I have this Thursday. I just hope that jacket is still there. They change things around sometimes but I do remember that display being there.
Not a problem. All I need is a little time. If I can wangle it, I'll be up there on Thursday the 22 of April. It all depends on a meeting I have this Thursday. I just hope that jacket is still there. They change things around sometimes but I do remember that display being there.
Silver Dollar
New Member
Hey jonnyboy. I'll be going up to the AF Musseum on Friday. I'll be taking my camera and I'll be looking for that jacket patch. Just a few more days and we got it.
Silver Dollar
New Member
Hey Jon, I got a great shot of the patch on that tanker's jacket. It definitely is a p38 with a wolf riding it. In fact, the display case is right in front of the P38 itself. I'll do a little Photoshop to the correct the colors and I'll get it to you. I also took pics of a bunch of other patches you may be interested in. Lots and lots of good stuff.
Silver Dollar
New Member
I'll post the patch as soon as I can get it onto Photobucket. It belongs to the 38th Fighter Squadron of the 55th FG when they were flying the P38's. It's similar to the two patches on the left. As an aside, the patch was put on the jacket while the wearer was in a German POW camp in 1943. It looks like they changed it after they switched to P 51's in 1944.
442RCT
New Member
jonnyboy said:
I thought one of the P-38 wolf patches was what Silver Dollar was talking about. No, I didn't paint any of the patches shown...they were patches off the internet I downloaded for my patch/nose art/jacket archives. I think Jerome incised/painted the one on the lower left.
shedonwanna
Active Member
442RCT said:
The top two, 428th and 429th , are painted by me. The 428th image was inverted but both appear to have come from my photobucket album. Her are two versions of the 428th I painted:
shedonwanna
Active Member
442RCT said:
The bottom patch is debossed - the leather is moistened and a stylus (ball point pen) can be used to transfer the design into the leather. I draw the design on a piece of tracing film and trace using the stylus onto the leather. If you wanted to incise the next step would be to follow the debossed lines with a knife. This is just basic leatherworking technique and you can find detailed descriptions on the net these days (you tube). I used this technique mostly when I first started making squadron patches. I had tooled leather for years and it was a natural process for me. The big drawback is that the debossed/tooled lines are permanent and changes are difficult; so, I stopped debossing but some of my customers still request it. If a vintage patch had been made this way I still paint it that way. Goat and garment leather does not tool very well - I use veg tanned cowhide. Veg tanned goat does incise nicely.
The top patch with the blue-green background is just painted without tooling. Very easy to paint over and make changes...
