GW A-2 in 44“ on the bay.

[Pilot]

Maybe for someone here..

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[mulceber]

And with the Aero label. Very cool, and a pretty reasonable price.

 

[Pilot]

Apparently sold…

 

[blackrat2]

You managed to snag that one?

 

[mulceber]

@blackrat2, not sure if you were talking to me, but I didn't get this one. I sure wish I did though - it's a doozy.

 

[ausreenactor]

Apparently sold…

Off EBay offer. Seller did himself an injustice. That label would have added exponential value.

 

[ausreenactor]

Hope they got more than the retail price.

 

[mulceber]

Is it confirmed that John doesn't offer the Aero label anymore? I'd been under the impression that his Aero labels were several years in the past, but 2019 is pretty recent.

 

[Pilot]

Is it confirmed that John doesn't offer the Aero label anymore? I'd been under the impression that his Aero labels were several years in the past, but 2019 is pretty recent.

My last info John is not allowed anymore, but Ken from Aero may chime in and confirm.
If this info is verified, Goodwear ( „real „, and not ACME ) Aero‘s are becoming not only rare and wanted, but very WANTED…just my opinion.. . and a bit verified recently
PS: I did not buy this one.

 

[Kermit3D]

GW offers me two contracts for my B-6 : Arnoff and Acme.
He can no longer use the name Aero (at this time).

 

[mulceber]

Thanks for the confirmation. Surprising to hear that the Aero labels were available so recently. Mistaken assumptions on my part, I guess.

 

[Pilot]

one of mine from a very nice member here…

 

[33-1729]

Both trademarks containing the words “Aero Leather(s)” have been abandoned by their respective owner (Aero Leather Clothing Co was owned until 2012 by an Italian firm called FGF industry S.p.A. and Aero Leather Clo. Co was owned by Gary Eastman until 2003). Aero Leathers of Scotland never owned an “Aero Leather(s)” trademark.

 

[mulceber]

Interesting. So would that mean that, legally any company based in the United States could use the Aero label without paying royalties to Aero Scotland?

As an aside, I've often wondered how enforceable that trademark is (would have been?) anyway. If your label says "Aero, Beacon, NY," it's pretty clear you aren't making a knock-off of the jackets from Aero Scotland. And it's an historical reproduction to boot. It strikes me as the sort of thing a really sharp lawyer could argue. But then, it probably wouldn't be worth it to spend all that money going to court just to be able to use accurate spec labels.

 

[33-1729]

Interesting. So would that mean that, legally any company based in the United States could use the Aero label without paying royalties to Aero Scotland?

Yes.

 

[Pilot]

Both trademarks containing the words “Aero Leather(s)” have been abandoned by their respective owner (Aero Leather Clothing Co was owned until 2012 by an Italian firm called FGF industry S.p.A. and Aero Leather Clo. Co was owned by Gary Eastman until 2003). Aero Leathers of Scotland never owned an “Aero Leather(s)” trademark.

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Thx for sharing, very interesting.
How about the rest of the world?
Edit: maybe Ken from Aero wants to chime in?

 

[B-Man2]

Haven’t seen Ken around here for a few weeks. I wonder what his perspective is on this information . Maybe he knows something we don’t .

 

[mulceber]

That's sort of my perspective on this as well. Ken's a savvy enough business man to have all his i's dotted and his t's crossed. And I'm sure at least a few of the repro makers in the US would have looked into the ins and outs of copyright law.

 

[B-Man2]

That's sort of my perspective on this as well. Ken's a savvy enough business man to have all his i's dotted and his t's crossed. And I'm sure at least a few of the repro makers in the US would have looked into the ins and outs of copyright law.

I’m pretty sure I remember a post wherein he said that at one point or another he had to insist that a company cease and desist from using the Aero name .

 

[mulceber]

Yeah, I do too - he told a story where Eastman was selling jackets with the Aero label under the table. Of course, that wouldn't be under US copyright law, but he may have similar stories about US companies.