E or D series G-1?

[mcqueen]

I just landed this G-1. I was looking for some 0G 107 pants and thought that $26 was a good price. I was pretty sure it was late '70s or '80s jacket, but as I've been looking around, I might of actually got a steal on the ePrey.

Bi-directional waistband, check
Conmar zip, check
Sketchy un-official mushroom cloud patch, check
Goatskin, maybe?

My big question, and once it's here from Canada I'll know, does that look like Dynel or mouton? What do you cats think?

(also, sorry for starting a thread on my first post, but this looks like the right place).

 

[kevlarg]

Re: E or D series G-1

Nice snag!

I don't know what series it would be but I would say that it is definitely goatskin and that it looks like real mouton to me. The fake stuff is a very dark brown color not the reddish brown shown in the picture. It looks pretty similar to my 1968 Brill Brothers G-1.

$26 is definitely good for anything wearable!

 

[deeb7]

Re: E or D series G-1

My big question, and once it's here from Canada I'll know, does that look like Dynel or mouton? What do you cats think?

Looks like mouton ... dynel doesn't fade.

 

[mcqueen]

Re: E or D series G-1

Thanks Kev and Deeb, you made my day. I'm too excited about this one. My wife is sick of my dropping little bits of M-422A and G-1 trivia. She'll surely never get tired of Top Gun jokes when I wear it (hey, as long as she goes all Kelly McGillis when we get home, we're cool).

Once it's here, how should I treat it? A little Pecard Antique Leather Care?

 

[Atticus]

Re: E or D series G-1

Clearly older than the seventies.

Paperclip Conmar, biweave waistband (if original), mouton collar, straight pocket flaps, "USN" perferation in the windflap.

I think it adds up to a B or early C series 7823.

AF

 

[mcqueen]

Re: E or D series G-1

^Oh really.

The waist and cuffs do look to be in pretty good condition, so I'd buy that they are not original, even for a late '60s (that stuff seams to wear out). D series have a "western yoke" style pockets? Paperclip Conmar is also a Brill/'68 feature, right?

 

[Atticus]

Re: E or D series G-1

All that I'm about to write comes from my humble obervations. I'm sure that there are exceptions and if I'm wrong, I'll happily stand corrected.

Later D series and E series G-1s had paperclip Scovill zippers. Before that, most manufactures used paperclip Conmars or Tallons. Yours is a Conmar.

Later D series and all E series G-1s had (have) dynel collars. Before 1969, G-1 collars were mouton. Yours is mouton.

Straight pocket flaps were on all of the 1960s 7823s. The "Western yoke" style pocketflaps were on the pre-G-1 jackets. Your jacket has straight pocket flaps.

Perferation of the windflaps began sometime before the B series jackets but after the introduction of the G-1 designation. That is, WWII (M-422 and M-422a) and Korean War (55J14) jackets were not perferated. Yours is.

Biweave waistbands ended with the C jackets. Yours is biweave but it may be a replacement.

I think the B series jackets began in 1962 and the C series G-1s ended in 1967. I think your jacket was made sometime in this five-year timeframe. If I am right, you did very well indeed!

AF

 

[mcqueen]

Re: E or D series G-1

Thank you for the input Mr. Finch, it is much appreciated.

 

[hacker]

Re: E or D series G-1

1960's C model, collar is mouton. Nice grab for the dough!



Hacker

 

[mcqueen]

Re: E or D series G-1

Thanks for all the help on this one. I'll repay it with plenty of gratuitous vintage-goatskin porn when she arrives.

 

[deeb7]

Re: E or D series G-1

Straight pocket flaps were on all of the 1960s 7823s. The "Western yoke" style pocketflaps were on the pre-G-1 jackets. Your jacket has straight pocket flaps.

FWIW .... early G-1's also have the scalloped pocket flaps. They changed during the course of the 7823 series, so some have them ... later ones are straight.

My repro 7823 has scalloped pockets, and bi-weave, so I just had to check John's CD. :lol:

 

[Atticus]

Re: E or D series G-1

Straight pocket flaps were on all of the 1960s 7823s. The "Western yoke" style pocketflaps were on the pre-G-1 jackets. Your jacket has straight pocket flaps.

FWIW .... early G-1's also have the scalloped pocket flaps. They changed during the course of the 7823 series, so some have them ... later ones are straight.

My repro 7823 has scalloped pockets, and bi-weave, so I just had to check John's CD. :lol:

Yes, I agree. But I still think that almost none of the 1960s G-1s had scalloped flaps. I believe that feature ended in early 1960 with the end of the first edition 7823. Still, I humbly stand corrected. Early G-1s did, indeed, have slightly scalloped flaps. Not "western yoke" scalloped a 'la Gordon & Ferguson M-422, but not straight, either. Straight flaps, like those we see today, seem to have begun with the 7823A in 1960 or 1961.

AF

 

[mcqueen]

The $26 jacket arrived.

 

[greyhound52]

Very good looking jacket and for the price a great score.

 

[Anonymous]

Nice score. I know a site that sells new OG 107's pants(3rd pattern Viet Nam issue) for about 80.00 in size large/Short but they are long enough for me, 6 foot. They have Large/Long tops(Slant pockets) still new for the same price. Believe it or not US Wings had the same size tops for 40.00 bucks.

 

[mcqueen]

Thanks for the pants info.

 

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