Very briefly.I knew he used Acme because Aero Scotland wouldn't let him use Aero. Though I think they did allow it at one time.
Still I didn't see the other poll at the time but it doesn't really matter.
I knew he used Acme because Aero Scotland wouldn't let him use Aero. Though I think they did allow it at one time.
Still I didn't see the other poll at the time but it doesn't really matter.
It's a shame because if you want an accurate repro really you want the correct label name. The again I'm sure John wouldn't want his craftsmanship to be confused with Aero Scotland.
I heard it was *some* of the same people, but not all. And I think I heard it from a pretty impeccable source... let me check my notes.I seem to recall reading that Aero Clothing & Tanning was run by the same people and was an earlier iteration of Aero Leather Clothing. If so (and I admit, I'm having trouble finding where I encountered that, so take it with a grain of salt), then it's only sort of a different company. Legally yes, functionally no.
Ah, that would be great. That's a fair distinction to make, but saying "different company" makes it sound like it was a completely different group from the New York area that just happened to have the same name, when really, there's a relationship between the two companies.I heard it was *some* of the same people, but not all. And I think I heard it from a pretty impeccable source... let me check my notes.
I seem to recall reading that Aero Clothing & Tanning was run by the same people and was an earlier iteration of Aero Leather Clothing. If so (and I admit, I'm having trouble finding where I encountered that, so take it with a grain of salt), then it's only sort of a different company. Legally yes, functionally no.
I think you just gave a more elaborated version of what I just said. My point was that saying the two Aeros are "different companies" without going into any details can convey the false impression that there was no relationship between the two companies.Not quite.
In Sept. 1936 Louis Kramer, Abe Wolkowitz, and John E. Liebmann had a purely verbal agreement to enter the business of manufacturing leather clothing but didn’t have the means to do so. Beginning Dec. 1936 enter Emily Kramer, the wife of Louis Kramer, who carried Aero Clothing and Tanning Co. under her name in Brooklyn, NY. She alone had the means to provide a performance bond to enable obtaining government contracts, obtained the contract from the government, and outright purchased the machines, bought leather and trimmings and paid for the rent and payroll. In the operation of that business Louis Kramer acted as salesman, Abe Wolkowitz was in charge of production and John E. Liebmann had charge of the office activities, including purchasing and shipping. From the money she made from the government contract she gave her husband, Louis Kramer, $4,000 and loans to Abe Wolkowitz, and John E. Liebmann to start off their business. On May 18, 1937, the Aero Leather Clothing Co., Inc. was legally incorporated in Beacon, NY and Aero Clothing and Tanning Co. of Brooklyn was no more.
The key point is that Emily Kramer owned and led Aero Clothing and Tanning Co. and from that business endeavor provided the money so her husband and two associates could legally start up their own company call Aero Leather Clothing Co., Inc. They are not the same company run by the same person, but one was created to fund the start of the other. Quite a story.
Ref.: https://www.leagle.com/decision/19497628hatcm7541554
Here's an interesting thread from 2012:
What happened to Aero Leather Clothing after the war?
Aero Leather Clothing were, as many people know, a massive company supplying vast quantities of garments to the USAAF and the USN. Yet did they just disappear at the end of the War? John Chapman and I have been investigating this question. The last Aero contract was awarded in the 1945 fiscal...www.vintageleatherjackets.org
@33-1729 -- I'm with you on there being two separate companies. I just posted that thread because it has posts about the division between owners.
BTW -- I've also heard that there's a Werber connection to the original Aero company... curiouser and curiouser.