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Who makes best Navy G-1???

Jaydee

New Member
AF[/quote]
That's weird! Maybe someone can enlighten us as to why. Here's the Specs:
http://assistdocs.com/search/search_basic.cfm
Enter mil-j-7823 in the "Document ID" field and hit search.

It clearly states in 7823E that leather shall be Goat or Kidskin. And in Amendment 3 in 1984 it changes to Cattle of Calfskin.[/quote]

Hi Jaydee,

I just went through the specs for the 7823E(AS), and sure enough the leather called for is goat or kid. But I also notice that mouton is specified for the collars, and we know that dynal was used from mid-1969 onward.

I think that it is pretty comon knowledge that many E-series G-1s were made of embossed cowhide, although there were also many E-series goatskin jackets. I'm not sure how the manufacturers were able to get around the specs, but maybe someone on the board can help us understand.

AF[/quote]

Hey AF, I just reread the Specs for 7823E. You are right about the real Mouton still being acceptable. However if you notice it also says "OR MIL-C-6590" (Cloth Pile, Sythetic mouton) can be used. What mfg in their right mind would pay to put on real fur when the cheap syn crap is good enough for the government? I think we have our answer, because apparently no one did! ;)
 

Atticus

Well-Known Member
Hi Folks,

I tried to find some photos of "Bessie" the cow G-1, but was only able to come up with these. Sometime soon, I'll try to take some better shots of her leather to show why I think that she is hardcore bovine.

Here she is on the hoof, so to speak. Notice the wrinkle pattern in the sleeves.

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And here's a shot of the sleeves of two D-series jackets and Bessie's sleeve. Can you tell which one is her's?

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AF
 

bfrench

Administrator
Atticus said:
Hi Folks,

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AF

By Gosh, Atticus,

Ye cuts a fine figure but we got to get you out in the sunshine more often to maybe get a smile on that mug of yours.

Snowman
 

Atticus

Well-Known Member
bfrench said:
Ye cuts a fine figure but we got to get you out in the sunshine more often to maybe get a smile on that mug of yours.

Snowman

Yeah. To love Africian American culture as much as I do, I'm definately melanin challenged. And as you can tell by the expression on my face, I'm not happy about it.

AF
 

hacker

Active Member
Atticus said:
bfrench said:
Ye cuts a fine figure but we got to get you out in the sunshine more often to maybe get a smile on that mug of yours.

Snowman

Yeah. To love Africian American culture as much as I do, I'm definately melanin challenged. And as you can tell by the expression on my face, I'm not happy about it.

AF

I always figured you was "red"..... :oops:



Hack
 

Jason

Active Member
Atticus said:
Hi Folks,

And here's a shot of the sleeves of two D-series jackets and Bessie's sleeve. Can you tell which one is her's?

wisconsin144-1.jpg



AF

I'd recognise that shade of brown anywhere, even without looking at the grain pattern. The Imperial is the one to the right.

Call me crazy, but I actually like the Imperial.
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The cow hide is quite nice, for cow hide anyway. I'll have to echo others sentiments that Star makes a nice G-1, but I've never seen a 7823E by Star. I've got a Ralph Edwards 7823E, and honestly I like the Imperial better. The cow hide used for the 7823E RE is to my opinion stiff and lifeless - lacking in character.
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But for my money, nothing beats my 7823B by Irvin Foster. Whatta work of pure art.

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