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What jacket(s) are you wearing at the moment?

mulceber

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Well that really depends on whether there's anything left to shrink out of the skins. Most modern tanneries stretch the hides to get the most bang for their buck out of them. So if the leather wasn't pre-shrunk before the construction of the jacket, yeah, heat will definitely cause shrinkage. As to whether cold vs. hot makes any other difference, you may well be right. This is a trick a folks over on COW swear by, but tbh, they aren't focused on jackets to the degree that we are, and so their knowledge about leather isn't as thorough-going as it is here.
 

mulceber

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There's a description of the hot water technique and some photos of jackets that have received the treatment on John's United States Flight Jacket CD, for those who have a copy.

Thanks for reminding me, John:
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Dany McDonald

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Frankly I would have never being able to tell it had any water alteration trick done to it other than it looks like a worn jacket, that may have seen the sun, dirt and rain and that's fine in my book.

But, personally, I will not try to Hot Water a garment made with high-end leather, chrome or veg or any master tannery technique! John probably has a lot of leftovers to test with and figure a modus operandy with desired results obtained. I just wear it, cote it and nature does the rest...

And since I work in the movie industry, I can tell ya there are a lot of ways to fake, make, aged and alter anything, especially cloth and leather...

Didn't know that this is a can of worms here on VLJ...
 
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B-Man2

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It’s not really a can of worms, it’s just that it’s been discussed here a number of times and the pros and cons are always discussed and debated. I’m like you Dany. I prefer to wear the piss out of the jackets ( as much as is possible living in a state with an average year around temp of about 70 degrees ) and let nature take its course. Wearing an A2 in a Florida rain storm will be all the water treatment any jacket requires .
 

B-Man2

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Feliz
I understand how you feel. Consider posting a photo wearing your jacket and just block out your face. Many of us do that and really that’s ok . We just like seeing the jackets . :)
 

Micawber

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It’s not really a can of worms, it’s just that it’s been discussed here a number of times and the pros and cons are always discussed and debated. I’m like you Dany. I prefer to wear the piss out of the jackets ( as much as is possible living in a state with an average year around temp of about 70 degrees ) and let nature take its course. Wearing an A2 in a Florida rain storm will be all the water treatment any jacket requires .
Looking back on some of the past threads on the merits or otherwise of various of shrinking, stretching, pre aging of leather by hot / cold water soaking / natural and artificial drying strike me as a bit can o'worms like. However I agree, nothing beats wearing the wotsits out of them in various conditions, for me that can include mucking out my animals, fixing my tractors and generally wearing both piss and shit of them in rain, sun and snow included :)
 

Flightengineer

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Oh, if I could...
But wait, it works ! Look ! the temperature drops in France (we lose 16°C in 3 days !)


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It should be warmer at your place from Tuesday :cool:

Not work :(
When the sun shines brightly but doesn't heat and you want to wear A2.



Incredible cold May ( +7С = 44F ) and only one of my dogs in his great fur coat is happy with such "warmth"

 
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CombatWombat

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I know it was about to make the leather mature, but cold water, rain water, will have the same effect on leather. When we refer to Hot Water, it's pretty much in a context of wanting to gain or even lose some cm's. Motorcycle jackets, the nice one's, always look good cause we wear them in pouring rain sometimes and then the sun come out and it dries nonuniformly too quickly and then the skin gains patina or character.

Dany
That's a trade secret of us bikies mate..... you're not supposed to break the vow of silence on how we make our cafe racer jackets look good haha
I've never been one for getting pre-worn looking jackets since a month if motorcycle riding usually brings out the grain for me.
Though I did wear my Christie's in the shower (to get the shoulders a tad bit wider and the elbow creases)
 

Nickb123

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Perfect fit. No words necessary!
How the heck do you keep getting these bad boys?

I found I wear exactly John’s size. The past 5 or so I’ve purchased through him, I haven’t even asked for a single measurement!

I used to suffer for years wanting a Goodwear, believe me. Always thought I had to go full custom because I’m tall. But his standard test sizes are all fit just a little longer which really works for me.

Crazy full circle it’s become. I am blessed. Studying the info on this forum daily to try to learn as much as I can.

One thing about repros is that they cause you to become more knowledgeable on originals. There’s a lot of truth to be found in the statement that plenty of wearable original Naval jackets exist - a repro isn’t really needed in that realm. But this was a fun jacket, and John captured the nuances of the original goatskin in this particular hide. It’s a bit stiff and heavier- much like the 1952(approx) original Werber I owned.

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Though I don’t see a year date for this Cagleco, I imagine it’s 1957-ish, prior to the Ralph Edwards name change.
 
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Pa12

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That's a trade secret of us bikies mate..... you're not supposed to break the vow of silence on how we make our cafe racer jackets look good haha
I've never been one for getting pre-worn looking jackets since a month if motorcycle riding usually brings out the grain for me.
Though I did wear my Christie's in the shower (to get the shoulders a tad bit wider and the elbow creases)
Maybe the bug juice does it. Probably the size of birds where you are;)
 
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