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What jacket(s) are you wearing at the moment?

Flightengineer

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Russian special forces used to use SS camo for some reason. Maybe still do! Must confuse their opponents who think they're the good guys!

eg.:



I haven't laughed so hard in a long time, the label with the inscription in Russian "made in China, I wish you fun" is just hilarious

The fact that Partizan camo = SS camo is also nonsense for those who are not in the know
 

ZuZu

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I haven't laughed so hard in a long time, the label with the inscription in Russian "made in China, I wish you fun" is just hilarious

The fact that Partizan camo = SS camo is also nonsense for those who are not in the know
Similar at least in pattern (of camo not garment) and definitely inspired by some legend of partisans using captured SS camo items I'd say. Like all things Russian it's hard to get a clear history (on Google it's impossible to find anything from a Russian POV- it's forbidden speech) of why they decided in 2004 to start using it.

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Kennyz

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Thanks mate!

I should mention that like most fabric/leather WWI flying coats it's belted but I've secured the belt at the back as I didn't feel like having it belted - I do the same often with my Aero Barnstormer.

My wife LOVES it which is a major plus, she calls it my Lord Flashheart jacket bless her ;)

Actually women here seem to like it as I've gotten quite a few lovely comments from the fairer sex when I wear it. I suppose it makes a change from all the parkas and puffy down jackets that people usually wear when the weather gets cold.
Well if you Wife feels that way then this coat is a keeper for sure!!! :)

Ken
 

Skyranger

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I ordered :

B-10 size XS 44 - Olive green
Chest 130 cm
Hem 93 cm
Sleeve 66.5 cm
Shoulder 53,5 cm
Length 70 cm

Fur collar redish russet
Knits light green or light olive green
Buttons green
USAF roundle at the shoulder and at front (white one)


Shawn said that It will be sent next week
 

Pa12

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I ordered :

B-10 size XS 44 - Olive green
Chest 130 cm
Hem 93 cm
Sleeve 66.5 cm
Shoulder 53,5 cm
Length 70 cm

Fur collar redish russet
Knits light green or light olive green
Buttons green
USAF roundle at the shoulder and at front (white one)


Shawn said that It will be sent next week
Doesn’t take long. I think it was a week and a half for mine.
 

Shanghai-Mayne

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Russian special forces used to use SS camo for some reason. Maybe still do! Must confuse their opponents who think they're the good guys!

eg.:


It is a enchanced version of ww2 oak pattern, a superior pattern at its time ,until multi camo get introduced.
 

Smithy

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So, could we get an idea of how you wear it? :) It is difficult to judge how a coat is cut before it is placed on the body. The surface is so large that even when it is bent for example it seems straight when it is hung. And , yes , I confirm about the nice comments from ladies when you wear a coat , I got a USAAF blue one from 1951 , great fitted cut and long , it flatters the figure and slims !!! Yours is very elegant.

I'll wear it with anything I feel like. Like any flying coat it's an overcoat. Works well with a RN submariner jumper. I've even worn it over a tweed blazer when off to a do. It's really versatile. I love it.
 

Smithy

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Similar at least in pattern (of camo not garment) and definitely inspired by some legend of partisans using captured SS camo items I'd say. Like all things Russian it's hard to get a clear history (on Google it's impossible to find anything from a Russian POV- it's forbidden speech) of why they decided in 2004 to start using it.

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Camo development is a little interest of mine as some here know. Waffen-SS (please not SS as the camo is specific to the "armed" SS) was extremely effective - the French even used left over Waffen-SS camo extensively in Indochina due to how effective it was in multiple theatres, obviously not the specific autumn patterns but the summer patterns were extremely effective in tropical environments as well as the temperate ones it was initially designed for..

Waffen-SS camouflage pioneered the "dot and splotch" disruptive patterns (such as "oakleaf", "pea", "plane", etc) which were (and are) so effective that many modern military patterns have returned to this style - MultiCam being the most famous and widespread example currently.

Like most things at the individual soldier's and squad level equipment level, late war German items and design were miles ahead - helmet design, squad level support weapons (MG42 for example), personal firearms (StG44), camouflage, etc.

Wehrmacht camouflage was very good as well such as Splinter and Sumpftarn but Waffen-SS camouflage was decades ahead of anything else.
 

LV426

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I'll wear it with anything I feel like. Like any flying coat it's an overcoat. Works well with a RN submariner jumper. I've even worn it over a tweed blazer when off to a do. It's really versatile. I love it.
In fact I was talking about a pic to see thave an idea of the general "shape" of the coat :) . It must be quite roomy to suport a Sub Jumper . really comfy ! I love the corduroy on coats , not usual !
 

Erwin

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Camo development is a little interest of mine as some here know. Waffen-SS (please not SS as the camo is specific to the "armed" SS) was extremely effective - the French even used left over Waffen-SS camo extensively in Indochina due to how effective it was in multiple theatres, obviously not the specific autumn patterns but the summer patterns were extremely effective in tropical environments as well as the temperate ones it was initially designed for..

Waffen-SS camouflage pioneered the "dot and splotch" disruptive patterns (such as "oakleaf", "pea", "plane", etc) which were (and are) so effective that many modern military patterns have returned to this style - MultiCam being the most famous and widespread example currently.

Like most things at the individual soldier's and squad level equipment level, late war German items and design were miles ahead - helmet design, squad level support weapons (MG42 for example), personal firearms (StG44), camouflage, etc.

Wehrmacht camouflage was very good as well such as Splinter and Sumpftarn but Waffen-SS camouflage was decades ahead of anything else.
Not only French army used SS oak camo after the war.... You can find evidences usage in Norway (where the late oak was printed but in a different width - Schiffer book do not mention this if I remember) also in Czechia, Bulgaria etc.
 

CK90

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My wear-it-out-in-the-rain wearer jacket is a Ralph Edwards 'C'. With the 'C's you don't have to worry about the blackened zipper and mine has the rib-racked waistband. Looks great on you!
Zu, for real, I need to know!! Why might one need to worry about the blackened zipper? I need you to share this knowledge.
 

ZuZu

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Zu, for real, I need to know!! Why might one need to worry about the blackened zipper? I need you to share this knowledge.
When virginal the blackened zippers are an intersting blackish brown color. With use- they start to show the brass color underneath. At first this looks kinda cool but after a while the dark color is gone from the puller and parts of the teeth and it begins to look used and old. Because of my OCD I was always worried about "ruining" the zipper on my literally new RE 7823B. With "c"s you don't have to worry- there's no blackening to come off.

It's hard to see but the blackening is complete on this new old stock IBF 'B':

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As they age the blackening starts to come off:
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Finally they look brass colored:


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