Watches to wear with your flight jackets...

busdrivermike

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Wearing this rare bird of a watch, the seiko ANA airline watch
Designed with input from the airlines pilots, only sold through
The in flight store, never sold in a store, apparently limited production
I was dealing with a dealer in Japan for other watches, mentioned I wanted
One of these he said he was going on a flight the next day and got me one
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ties70

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@Earloffunk ,

Sinn does make some awesome watches!
Their 103 ST is still one of may favorite models.. I had a Chronosport model 40 some years ago, pretty much the same watch, but made by Helmut Sinn's "new" company Guinand / Chronosport after he sold the SINN brand and company.

This guy retired from the watches business at the age of 98 (!), and died in 2018 at the age of 102... amazing character.

My watch today:

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zoomer

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The USAAC Type A-7 Avigation Hack Watch, first issued in 1934, was the predecessor to the A-11. This very large watch - made in either 49mm or 51mm cases, big as a railroader's pocket watch - had the unusual feature of a 40° tilt to the face and stem, so it could be read easily without taking the left hand from aircraft controls, and hacked with the right hand.

Only three firms, all Swiss, made the A-7, whose specifications ran to 7 pages. Owing to the watch's size and exacting specs, no civilian versions appeared at the time.

This original procurement was from Gallet.

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Longines also made the A-7 and today reproduces several very expensive versions, including some with black dials. These are 44mm cased to be more wrist wearable.

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An original 51mm Longines from 1935. Unlike the repro, no date window, and not automatic. Each A-7 had a serial number, like every Army aircraft (this one is 35-56). And they were not procured in much greater numbers than planes in those years!

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A.R. & J.E. Meylan was a New York importer of Swiss stopwatches and chronographs. This A-7 is No. 37-77.

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Geeboo

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I don't own this watch. Just post to share this beautiful Rodium plated C.18.72 based movt
"Rare Longines Avigation U.S. Hack wristwatch"
A rare and important example of the Longines A7 Avigation, manufactured to USAAC specification 27748, supplied to Wittnauer USA circa 1935 and one of only 175 ordered.
This watch is sold for
£22,000


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B-Man2

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Great watch.... For several years most here in the US were hooked on Rolex’s but I’ve always thought that Omega made a better watch. It just didn’t have the big advertising budget behind it the way Rolex did. After I had traveled to Europe a few times I found that Omega was more prominent on that continent. At least it seems that way.
 

bazelot

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Great watch.... For several years most here in the US were hooked on Rolex’s but I’ve always thought that Omega made a better watch. It just didn’t have the big advertising budget behind it the way Rolex did. After I had traveled to Europe a few times I found that Omega was more prominent on that continent. At least it seems that way.
Yes Rolex is way overrated. My boss has one and he keeps complaining about the inaccuracy of the damn thing. After his $900 Rolex Service the watch was loosing almost a minute a day and according to them it was perfectly normal. It took me 6 months with my Chronograph Seamaster (which was serviced at around the same time and has more complications) to loose a full minute. I own 3 Omegas and I will never go to Rolex. The one above has never been serviced since i have owned it (it is a 1997) and it is keeping spot on time. They are just beautiful watches and built like a tank (in a good way)
 

Pilot

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Sorry to disagree. Both brands are producing great watches. I own both brands and posted them here several times...Omega is a mass production item and depresses in value after the first second you wear it...Every Rolex never get sold for less than it costs you when buying it...a real investment with return when selling... by all means. Rolex is an investment and “tool watch” Omega..nice to have and use...but looses a lot of its initial buying price very fast ( except some special models...but only when aging in perfect condition).
I ordered two R. Daytona steel/steel one black one white face...Waiting time if ordered from the Rolex dealer and only paying the price list price...4 years...Still 1 year to go...Buying them on the “ grey market “ brand new full set with no waiting time..approx + 40% of what I paid...There is no Omega watch alike...Just a little example given...
Servicing..: only at the Rolex, Omega Factory...No others, no way to give it to any retailer or self proclaimed watch doctor...never ever had any issues with both brands.
Agree...costly...both...this is the way it should be...so no complain.
Last but not least...The Rolex factory services every Rolex ever made...regardless of age...Omega has no more parts nor skilled people for their watches prior the 60/70s...Here and now , yes you need one of the self proclaimed watch gurus ( read collectors and fans who has parts and can fix it..)...some are even ( professional) good in that.
All by experience...
 
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petermack09

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Hi Brice,thanks to you,I have also placed a note of interest some time ago on a black faced ss Daytona,,Gives me plenty of time to start saving.:)
 

Pilot

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They are great watches... one can get one right away on chrono24.de... brand new... minimum 40% higher than the price list..or wait for 4 years ( maybe a bit less now due to the actual situation).
Nothing like that from Omega...
 

Saint-ex

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I agree @Pilot , on your analysis on the value between Rolex and Omega second hand market, just want to tone down the Rolex services...
They are also well know to change parts without customer agreement and without return the changed parts, which made many old watches lose a lot of value (A former Comex diver is still crying...).
And take a look about the XXX on the back case...
My 80's GMT Master is not going anymore to the official Rolex network for service for this reason.
 

Pilot

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I agree @Pilot , on your analysis on the value between Rolex and Omega second hand market, just want to tone down the Rolex services...
They are also well know to change parts without customer agreement and without return the changed parts, which made many old watches lose a lot of value (A former Comex diver is still crying...).
And take a look about the XXX on the back case...
My 80's GMT Master is not going anymore to the official Rolex network for service for this reason.
Apologies if I cannot agree. I had only best experiences with the Rolex factory service. Sent them all via a Basel (Switzerland) based Rolex couriering service to Geneva...Picked the watch up in the same Rolex service.
Got all changed parts back plus a two years factory warranty on all work done.
Invoicing from 600 to 800 CHF, depending on the Model. Yes they change parts without asking...why asking anyway? they are the experts not the wearer...they offer and are reliable for a 2 years warranty.
I believe, if sent only within France or any other country ( to Rolex dealer ) it might be different. Back to factory only ( no outlet, no dealer) as above mentioned.
May I express severe doubts and with all due respect, that your actual watch maker if not a Rolex authorized dealer or service center uses original Rolex parts for your Submariner? for me, this makes it loosing value...rebuild with after market parts....
Plus it may even get worse and damaging other parts...I am no fan of such things sorry..not for my watches nor my cars nor any others..
I have an issued ( not to me) Comex 16600 and as far as I can see it only gains in value if unmessed and with all paperwork, service records, box etc...As for all...many rebuilt “ Comex’es “ on the market...Here we discuss the real thing...not the “ retrofitted “ ones.
No Omega at all, will ever be at this level, unless from (with provenance) an Astronaut or Capt. Cousteau’s or his team...(BTW, the later favored Rolex vs. all others).
 
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