I got it from a guy who got it from an estate sale. I've looked on line and seen some guys at leather shops but nobody knows anything about it. It's thick as hell and I've been told the leather comes from the cows shoulder. I've also been told it's old and when my son is my age (I'm 35 he's 3) the jacket will likely be in the same condition because it's such a heavy leather. Any info any body might have would be greatly appreciated.