Interesting point, thanks. Andy advised adding no more than 1 inch to the Dubow, and he has seen the photos of me in the 27 inch jacket.
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Interesting point, thanks. Andy advised adding no more than 1 inch to the Dubow, and he has seen the photos of me in the 27 inch jacket.
mulceber
Moderator
Yeah, if he’s seen that photo and he still advised adding only an inch, I’d go with him on that.
If it helps ease your nerves, keep in mind that getting the back measurement a little off is less of a problem than other measurements (like sleeves!): if it’s a bit short, you just wear higher waisted pants. If it’s a bit long though, you can still wear it, but it throws off the look of the jacket.
If it helps ease your nerves, keep in mind that getting the back measurement a little off is less of a problem than other measurements (like sleeves!): if it’s a bit short, you just wear higher waisted pants. If it’s a bit long though, you can still wear it, but it throws off the look of the jacket.
I've replied to him saying that my concern is the 27 inch jacket length for the Jagdflieger vs 24.5 inch length for the Dubow. I imagine he will respond and say exactly what you said - that you can't compare them because they are two very different cuts.
In that case, I might add 0.5 inch to the length, based on what the other tailor said about my torso being a little longer than normal. But if I do that, I don't know if I'd need to do the same for the ANJ-3.
Speaking of ANJ-3, 42R or 44R?
In that case, I might add 0.5 inch to the length, based on what the other tailor said about my torso being a little longer than normal. But if I do that, I don't know if I'd need to do the same for the ANJ-3.
Speaking of ANJ-3, 42R or 44R?
My chest circumference is 41.2 inches. Shoulder measurement is 49 inches.
AN-J-3 size 42
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pit to pit 22.5
shoulders 19
back 26.25
sleeve 25.25
AN-J-3 size 44
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pit to pit 23.5
shoulders 19.5
back 26.375
sleeve 25.25
Dubow 27798 size 42
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pit to pit 22.5
shoulders 18
back 24.5
sleeve 25.5
Dubow 27798 size 44
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pit to pit 23.5
shoulders 18.5
back 24.75
sleeve 25.75
AN-J-3 size 42
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pit to pit 22.5
shoulders 19
back 26.25
sleeve 25.25
AN-J-3 size 44
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pit to pit 23.5
shoulders 19.5
back 26.375
sleeve 25.25
Dubow 27798 size 42
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pit to pit 22.5
shoulders 18
back 24.5
sleeve 25.5
Dubow 27798 size 44
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pit to pit 23.5
shoulders 18.5
back 24.75
sleeve 25.75
Okay, a long overdue update.
BK messed up the ANJ-3 twice, so they cancelled it and refunded me. I have now received the Dubow that I asked them to make, however, it doesn't fit well.
For a recap, Andy said I could have ordered a 42 or a 44, and that I probably didn't need the extra length. He sent me the measurements of both, which are above. He said that a 42 would be a slim fit and 44 would be a casual fit. I was worried that the casual fit would be blousy, so I went for the 42. But I asked him to add extra length to it. Specifically, I asked him to add one inch to the back length and 0.5 inches to the shoulders. From the photos, this does not appear to be done.
Also, can someone confirm whether I measured the pit to pit right? Because, the pit to pit should be 22.5 inches, but that does not look close to 22.5 inches. Am I missing something?
BK messed up the ANJ-3 twice, so they cancelled it and refunded me. I have now received the Dubow that I asked them to make, however, it doesn't fit well.
For a recap, Andy said I could have ordered a 42 or a 44, and that I probably didn't need the extra length. He sent me the measurements of both, which are above. He said that a 42 would be a slim fit and 44 would be a casual fit. I was worried that the casual fit would be blousy, so I went for the 42. But I asked him to add extra length to it. Specifically, I asked him to add one inch to the back length and 0.5 inches to the shoulders. From the photos, this does not appear to be done.
Also, can someone confirm whether I measured the pit to pit right? Because, the pit to pit should be 22.5 inches, but that does not look close to 22.5 inches. Am I missing something?
Forgot to add that I have emailed Andy at BK to ask what to do about it. Will let everyone know what he says.
Other interesting thoughts. I already had the Jagdflieger jacket made by Noble House. It is amazing that there is such a difference in the leather. The BK leather feels and looks amazing. Much thinner and less stiff than the noble house jacket. Makes the jacket more comfortable because it flexes easier. At least, it would be more comfortable if the sizing was right.
Other interesting thoughts. I already had the Jagdflieger jacket made by Noble House. It is amazing that there is such a difference in the leather. The BK leather feels and looks amazing. Much thinner and less stiff than the noble house jacket. Makes the jacket more comfortable because it flexes easier. At least, it would be more comfortable if the sizing was right.
Brettafett
Well-Known Member
Well, you got the 'trim' fit. Looks good generally, and will loosen up over time... but for me, I think its short in body and sleeves.
(See my post on Aug 14th)
But what's important, is how does it feel to you, does it feel/ fit a bit trim or is it comfortable?
If you do not feel good in it, my advice is to sell it and move on. Otherwise it will become a closet-queen.
IF Andy is open to making you another one, now at least you have a better insight into fit and how to make the next jacket better.
We've all been here, done that. Its a learning process.
ps that russet Liberty looks amazing. I have samples and am drooling to get a russet BK
(See my post on Aug 14th)
But what's important, is how does it feel to you, does it feel/ fit a bit trim or is it comfortable?
If you do not feel good in it, my advice is to sell it and move on. Otherwise it will become a closet-queen.
IF Andy is open to making you another one, now at least you have a better insight into fit and how to make the next jacket better.
We've all been here, done that. Its a learning process.
ps that russet Liberty looks amazing. I have samples and am drooling to get a russet BK
Brettafett
Well-Known Member
Only BK can say, but its also possible when you asked for an extra 0.5 in the shoulders, the body panels were widened...?
Not saying that's the case, just that its possible.
Theres always going to be variances/ tolerances...
I received two Dubow 42s from BK and one was very slightly larger/ roomier than the other. Thats the one Kermit now has.
Exactly same for ELC. I have had so many jackets from them and there are always variances.
Even my last two Monarchs... Im convinced the first jacket was a touch trimmer. Anyway.
Not saying that's the case, just that its possible.
Theres always going to be variances/ tolerances...
I received two Dubow 42s from BK and one was very slightly larger/ roomier than the other. Thats the one Kermit now has.
Exactly same for ELC. I have had so many jackets from them and there are always variances.
Even my last two Monarchs... Im convinced the first jacket was a touch trimmer. Anyway.
If the jacket was made according to specifications, I will probably sell it, unless Andy can do something about it (which I doubt).
It just feels a little too tight and too short. I would need an inch extra on the sleeves and an inch on the body length, plus extra room for my chest. I will see what Andy says, whether it was manufactured according to specifications or not.
I am probably going to have Shawn from FiveStar make me a jacket or two. I have got leather samples from him, which I like.
It just feels a little too tight and too short. I would need an inch extra on the sleeves and an inch on the body length, plus extra room for my chest. I will see what Andy says, whether it was manufactured according to specifications or not.
I am probably going to have Shawn from FiveStar make me a jacket or two. I have got leather samples from him, which I like.
Some people complain if you include the big images, some people complain if you include thumbnails. So you can't please everyone.
Click on the thumbnails to see a larger image.
mulceber
Moderator
Uhh, I don't think I've ever heard anyone complain about big images. Burt's suggestion that you should post the full-sized images is one you should take to heart. This board creates all kinds of trouble for people trying to load thumbnails.
B-Man2
Well-Known Member
Sorry but I must respectfully disagree with you. I haven’t seen anyone here complain because someone posted full size images . However, the choice is yours to post them however you want. The choice is ours as to whether we care to respond or not .
Smithy
Well-Known Member
Also if you post really big pics the forum software automatically resizes them so they fit nicely in the post. You can just click on the image and voom - full size resolution.
So much easier and user friendly than thumbnails which as we all know are on par with traffic wardens, taxes, diarrhea and getting sand in your sandwich at the beach.
So much easier and user friendly than thumbnails which as we all know are on par with traffic wardens, taxes, diarrhea and getting sand in your sandwich at the beach.
Silver Surfer
Well-Known Member
waaaaaa, im a small guy [size 32] and I like small images cause I have small eyes. I have to stand on a chair or 10 feet away to see large images. waaaaaa.
