The Spaniard!!It’s only a forum and for me, the only forum i bother with. I first joined (under a different name back in 2001/2001 or so. I come, i go. I contribute where i choose and don’t when i am not interested. I do not read everything. I don’t usually bother reading when people quote me. I need no approval nor have time to read criticism. And generally, apart from maybe 6 people on here, nor do i give a toss what people think of me.
A few of us communicate outside the forum and have our fun at other members away from prying eyes. Those friendships i do value.
I know most of us are stuck with various levels of Martial Law for a flu virus but try to keep a sense of perspective.
Don’t spend more time on here, use the time in other ways.
The Devil makes work for idle hands.......
I do yearn for the early days of the forum when vintage was the norm and we had some true giants in the collecting world and some real characters - remember Steve Senicko anyone....?
The question of the preservation of know-how is very interesting.My 0,1ct ranting!
1) why do we have a reaction score figures N# what for? never undestood it anyway... guess I am not the only one ... Poor me I have 3x more than some mods? ( real or self proclaimed).
2) this forum is called Vintage L.J.... lately very little vintage was discussed...or on sale here...
( we all know and experienced... selling outside of VLJ brings much more €€£•¥¥¥¥¥$$$ than within this forum.... many experienced it..).. so why no more here???
3) contributings on a great low cost reproducer .. very good... ( with all due respect for his achievements and the VLJ contributions ) is not everyone’s daily cup of tea.....again with all due respect.
4) Recently... many “how much is your mall jackets name” ...jackets inquiries poped in recently... 10 seconds memership...MODS?!!??. Dont want to contribute on that!!!any volunteer!?
5) my little side business!... I invested 180K Euro in patterns, stocks, equipment, social affairs, unpaid social security... etc...
Now some expect me to share knowhow or knownledge or resources just to allow a low cost ( do it yourself) reproduction to be materialized?!?!...
Dream dream dream dream ....
Ask Ken , John, David or BR or The Real MCc’s if they are happy to share an IKEA manual on
how to produce your own A-2, B-3 etc!!! Nuts!Nuts!Nuts!
6) My 0,1ct ranting again.. very little chance to sell anything more than 300 Euro here...( some rare exceptions ... for real good prime repros... )...all others are MISSION IMPOSSIBLE... according to reccords....
In my little side business a lot of super trade in jackets come in... but no real chance to sell them here...since almost everything here is only focusing on bargains and low cost and cheap...( the world had its share on cheap cheap cheap, and cheaper...no matter whats it really costs at the end ....).
Another un-contribution fact! IMHO.
7) for all “vintage “ members here... where is all the bleeding off gone? Very good guys , extremely knowledgeable... sacrificed in the name of.. no more vintage but just cheap and affordable for all.. just ask arround... see where they are right now...
“Vintage”? where? what?... no more!... just why the extreme expected contributions are laking ..
Just my little ranting and contribution about “laisser faire” contributing ...( or very little) for me in the “ex real “ vintage leather jacket forum...
Apologies if it sounds pathetic.
No intention to harm nor to polemic or hurt.... just my 0.1ct ranting.
Hope the new 365+++ days ahead bring some better!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Great points Burt.Not to detract or derail the previous conversations, but simply to refocus on the title and purpose of the thread , I’d like to say well done to Rob 917-K for diving into the deep end of the pool today with that post of his original B-15 series of awesome jackets and A-11 pants . Bombing IP suggested that more people needed to step up and contribute and Rob did that in spades . Where have you been dude ?? Now that was a good post and one that I think we’d all like to see more of .
I will add one thing that’s always in the back of my mind when posting jackets or collections, and it’s something that I’d like to put out here in this conversation . I’ve seen guys with great collections come here and leave here, and there is a fine line that you have to be aware of when posting your jackets or collections . A person has to do everything possible to convey relevant information, historical background and anecdotal relevancy of the objects being shown or otherwise you run the risk of being branded as simply a “Hey look at me ! , Look what I have “ poster who’s simply showing off . I think it’s something we all need to keep in the back of our minds, that first and foremost we all found our way here seeking information and trying to learn more about this hobby . So we should always try to incorporate some type of history , facts or background of the jackets or objects that we put up for others to see, so that there can be a transfer of knowledge and some learning taking place . Once again nice job and a big thumbs up to Rob 917-K for his contributions today .
I consider myself a "novice" as such compared to many on here ,when it comes to jackets.Great points Burt.
Also, we have seen some absolute novices come on here, absorb (even steal) information and then regurgitate it with a haughty, know-it-all manner. Or disappear because not enough homage was paid to them.
We are all equals on here - but some know more than others. And generally, the really knowledgable ones are very cool. There have been exceptions of course
What i hate are people who come on here and take but don’t give a thing..... every post is asking for something.
Thx. Ken, well said and pointed out!As the original designer of the most copied leather jacket design of the last 50 years, The Aero Highwayman, I'm probably the best placed to comment even though it has been pointed out that the French Cyclist Jacket designs ISN'T a new unique design, like it or not, The Highwayman was unique, inspired by earlier jackets but barely recognisable alongside it's inspiration
Pilot : Get used to it.
It took 3 years for the first copies of The Highwayman to surface, (Flip of Glasgow) now almost every leather manufacturer has done a copy. from the blatently obvious like Sam Walker or Simmons Bilt at the bottom of the ladder (these two even used stolen Aero patterns) to Ralph Lauren at the other end
A long time ago I learnt to go with Oscar Wilde's definition 'Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.' .........or something like that