Enigma a while back made the comment about civilian jackets that there is no interest unless the jacket is military,and to which I replied that's a sweeping statement . I think the poster was enigma ,well the next day Ken at Aero leather Quoted me and made the statement well is he wrong ? . Or something along those lines ,well I have been thinking about what enigma and Ken said and have come to this conclusion .We have 3867 registered members of that in my estimation we have about thirty five people who post and participate .Which to me is very said ........................... nuff said . Burt you are in the top ten and go out of your way to bring us new and interesting food for thought .Then we have the show and tell who rarely give us any nuggets of solid info . Then there's the rest best left alone this group I do not want to start anything .Guys we can do better than this surely ,lets puts some more effort in the new year please .