PRE WWII IRVIN?????

[Roughwear]

Check this out. It is hard to tell from the one photo if it is really from the 1930s, but is possibly an early Aviation Leathercraft jacket from the 1970s. I asked the seller for close-up photos and details of the zips, but he gave a general reply which added nothing to the description.
:?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IRVIN-FLYING-JACK ... 0213455624

 

[Andrew]

Yeah, that one caught my attention too. ALC was my first thought and my second was that he'd been reading some of your auctions! You'd need to see good shots of the details but I guesss this is as much as he'll give up. I certainly wouldn't take a chance on it as is.

 

[shanghai joe]

Ok back to basics........seller bought it 40 years ago and removed tags.........that makes it a 1960s purchase.

Nope he didn't reply my email.........speaks volumes.



silence can be deafening

 

[Roughwear]

People can be elastic with the time! I told him what sort of zips a pre-war Irvin should have, but he has not replied. I may well report him to Ebay for listing an which is misleadingly described!

 

[shanghai joe]

People can be elastic with the time! ..............plastik man????

 

[John Lever]

I have a very early ALC Irvin. I bought it in 1977 it was my first flight jacket and It looks very similar to this one. It was coated in bullet proof brown gunge that I eventually removed using acetone and sand paper [ 600 grit ]
Too small for me now when it looks the part, my wife wears it.

 

[Roughwear]

Thanks for posting these pics John. Without the label is could easily pass for an original. Yes it looks like the one on Ebay.

 

[rich]

It may not be intentional duplicity - ALC have done a pretty good job convincing the unwary/disinterested
that their product is the real deal, plus that wretched misplaced label can always be used to clinch
the 'authenticity' debate. Is it possible that ALC were making these in 1968 though? The label is usually shown on
these occasions, with a touching deference.
The plumpness of the cuffs has to be the best give-away in this shot though. (I used to own - with some pride -
an Avirex A2, only because I didn't know any better..........
Anyway, what kind of nut would pay £1000+ for some relic from the 30's? :lol:

 

[Roughwear]

Anyway, what kind of nut would pay £1000+ for some relic from the 30's? :lol:

Several people seemingly, judging by the bidding on my mid 30s Irvin!

 

[shanghai joe]

Anyway, what kind of nut would pay £1000+ for some relic from the 30's? :lol:

Several people seemingly, judging by the bidding on my mid 30s Irvin!

aaaaah ( the irvin goddess') prodigal son..............

 

[Jamesp]

Is it possible that ALC were making these in 1968 though?

Alc started making their Irvins in 1977. Says so on their web site.

If this is a pre-war Irvin I shall eat my pre-war Irvin with a nice chianti.

 

[John Lever]

ALC did not exist in '68. It was Peter Green before it became ALC

 

[Roughwear]

ALC did not exist in '68. It was Peter Green before it became ALC

Whoever made the jacket the sellers refusal to answer questions is telling! :lol:

 

[rich]

Anyway, what kind of nut would pay £1000+ for some relic from the 30's? :lol:

Several people seemingly, judging by the bidding on my mid 30s Irvin!

I'd be one of them if I had the spare wonga Andrew. Glad it did well for you!

 

[spitfire]

When i saw that jacket,i immediately knew,simply by the modern fleece on the collar.that clown should be reported.i know one thing,i am blacklisting him from my list of people to buy from.

 

[Roughwear]

When i saw that jacket,i immediately knew,simply by the modern fleece on the collar.that clown should be reported.i know one thing,i am blacklisting him from my list of people to buy from.

Spitfire, have you reported him to Ebay? I have, but the listing has not been pulled.

 

[spitfire]

not yet andrew.i have just this minute finished taking pictures of a grenfell double breasted trenchcoat and a pair of irvin flying trousers.i will do that now.by the way,the irvin flying trousers i have,are made of black wool,like your wonderful unique jacket.perhaps,they are the second part of your jacket's suit?

 

[Andrew]

not yet andrew.i have just this minute finished taking pictures of a grenfell double breasted trenchcoat and a pair of irvin flying trousers.i will do that now.by the way,the irvin flying trousers i have,are made of black wool,like your wonderful unique jacket.perhaps,they are the second part of your jacket's suit?

Jackets yes but I wasn't aware black Irvin trousers existed - don't suppose they still have the label Spit? The trousers tended to keep their labels longer than the jackets.

 

[spitfire]

no labels at all unfortunately.that did surprise me,as i have a pair with the label on.

 

[Roughwear]

Ebay have removed the listing.