BSA 441 Victor ..... a four stroke thumper that BSA tried to make into a motocross bike to compete against Husqvarna , Maico, and CZ motocrossers . Damn thing was just too heavy and didn’t have the suspension it needed to be competitive against those other 220lb bikes. But man did that 4 stroke pull like a tractor. It could literally idle up a steep hill and not stall out. Man thanks for the trip down memory laneThanks. I did a Norton Commando several years back but generally prefer Triumphs if it is going to be a Brit bike... they just have more name recognition, broader parts availability and resale-ability. Though I do have a BSA Victor Special waiting for rebuild... but they tend to be a total beast to get running and keep running.