Juanito
Well-Known Member
Much has been discussed about this jacket, 20 pages worth before anyone has seen one. I believe I am the first on the forum to actually own one.
One of the issues that was posted in the other thread was wait time for manufacturing and then shipping. Here's my timelime. jacket ordered on July 24th, e-mail from Platon on August 7 letting me know it had shipped; delivered (I was away on vacation) on August 13.
Here are the photos:
Now for the nitty gritty; measurements, details and impressions:
For reference I am 5' 8" and right now weigh 180 lbs--the most I have ever weighed. Usually, I am about 165 lbs and 150 when I am in good shape and exercising on a regular basis but for a number of reasons I have blimped up over the past year. I wear a 42 suit and a 15 1/2 to 16 x 34 dress shirt and have a 35" waist that is usually 34."
One note: I have purchased a number of Good Wear jackets. Typically, jackets that fit John fit me perfectly, I think mainly due to wide shoulders.
Jacket Measurements:
Chest front: 23.5"
Shoulders: 17.5" (This seems narrow to me for a size 44 jacket)
Back from base of collar to waistband: 20.5"
Front, entire windflap: 22.5"
Sleeve from epaulet to cuff: 22.5"
I used the measurements from Platon's site and it landed me right in the middle iof the 44 range. Typicall I have been buying size 46 A-2s, but for some reason chose a 44 here. It fits just like my original Perry A-2s in the way the shoulders square up and through the torso as well as the Good Wear 1401 Werber I owned and the Eastmant 1402-P War Horse jacket I also owned, both size 44.
The jacket is a little tight as expected--I could not wear a sweatshirt under it but it is not uncomfortable with a t-shirt. After I get back into shape, it will most likely fit just fine
The Jacket Itself
Please note: While I have owned dozens of originals over the 30+ years I have been into A-2s, I have never owned a Dubow, so I can only compare it to what I have seen but not owned.
Secondarily, from a marketing standpoint I suppose this would be considered a 2nd tier jacket due to pricing, so inevitably I will make reference to the Diamond Dave Cable I owned a few years ago. So here we go...
For 450 Euros, or $515 at today's exchange rate, in terms of overall fit, feel, and quality of materials this jacket blows away anything in that price range. It is wholly on par with the Eastman and Aero jackets I have and are very similar in terms of overall feel of the leather.
Given that a US Authentic jacket retails for something like $600, US Wings is around $500 and my Diamond Dave Cable was cowhide for $985, there is simply no reason to consider the others.
The seams are straight and true, the pattern appears to be a reasonable copy (although the pockets are centered on the zipper, not the windflap) and the leather feels dense with a good firmness to it, very slightly heavier than the Eastman .50 cal and the Aero I have.
The snaps are black United Carr nipple snaps, the zipper is a cotton taped Talon. The label is very accurate frm what I can tell and there is a pocket size tag. The cuff and waistband are almost certainly 100% wool and are far more robust that that on my Eastman jacket. There was some discussion regarding the thread color which in reality is neither olive nor fully tan but kind of splits the two colors if you can imagine that.
The lining is very nice and I do not think it will have any tendency to pill as did the Diamond Dave lining in the Cable.
The color is a little light for original russet jackets I have seen but only very slightly. The only place the jacket comes up short in my opinion is durability of the finish, but it scuffs just like an Aero, Eastman, or Good Wear semi-aniline finished jacket--zero difference and typical of high end reproductions. In fact, the leather is very similar to the leather on the Good Wear Rough Wear 1401-P jacket I had a couple of years ago.
The only other odd thing is that the box stitch on the hanger seems a little large, but again, not excessively so and I do not have an original to compare.
Would I buy another--yes, in fact I just ordered a 46 in seal. I am not in the habit of buying new repros; I almost always buy used in the secondary market, but at the price and quality, and the fact that the Dubow is one of my favorite contracts with the collar shape and pocket shape, it is a no brainer.
I would whole heartedly recommend this jacket, and in all honesty, it can compete without reservation with $1,000+ Aeros, Eastmans, and the Diamond Dave jackets all day long--in fact I think this is a far superior jacket to the Diamond Dave Dubow from the photos I have seen, particularly in terms of the distinctive collar point.
One of the issues that was posted in the other thread was wait time for manufacturing and then shipping. Here's my timelime. jacket ordered on July 24th, e-mail from Platon on August 7 letting me know it had shipped; delivered (I was away on vacation) on August 13.
Here are the photos:
Now for the nitty gritty; measurements, details and impressions:
For reference I am 5' 8" and right now weigh 180 lbs--the most I have ever weighed. Usually, I am about 165 lbs and 150 when I am in good shape and exercising on a regular basis but for a number of reasons I have blimped up over the past year. I wear a 42 suit and a 15 1/2 to 16 x 34 dress shirt and have a 35" waist that is usually 34."
One note: I have purchased a number of Good Wear jackets. Typically, jackets that fit John fit me perfectly, I think mainly due to wide shoulders.
Jacket Measurements:
Chest front: 23.5"
Shoulders: 17.5" (This seems narrow to me for a size 44 jacket)
Back from base of collar to waistband: 20.5"
Front, entire windflap: 22.5"
Sleeve from epaulet to cuff: 22.5"
I used the measurements from Platon's site and it landed me right in the middle iof the 44 range. Typicall I have been buying size 46 A-2s, but for some reason chose a 44 here. It fits just like my original Perry A-2s in the way the shoulders square up and through the torso as well as the Good Wear 1401 Werber I owned and the Eastmant 1402-P War Horse jacket I also owned, both size 44.
The jacket is a little tight as expected--I could not wear a sweatshirt under it but it is not uncomfortable with a t-shirt. After I get back into shape, it will most likely fit just fine
The Jacket Itself
Please note: While I have owned dozens of originals over the 30+ years I have been into A-2s, I have never owned a Dubow, so I can only compare it to what I have seen but not owned.
Secondarily, from a marketing standpoint I suppose this would be considered a 2nd tier jacket due to pricing, so inevitably I will make reference to the Diamond Dave Cable I owned a few years ago. So here we go...
For 450 Euros, or $515 at today's exchange rate, in terms of overall fit, feel, and quality of materials this jacket blows away anything in that price range. It is wholly on par with the Eastman and Aero jackets I have and are very similar in terms of overall feel of the leather.
Given that a US Authentic jacket retails for something like $600, US Wings is around $500 and my Diamond Dave Cable was cowhide for $985, there is simply no reason to consider the others.
The seams are straight and true, the pattern appears to be a reasonable copy (although the pockets are centered on the zipper, not the windflap) and the leather feels dense with a good firmness to it, very slightly heavier than the Eastman .50 cal and the Aero I have.
The snaps are black United Carr nipple snaps, the zipper is a cotton taped Talon. The label is very accurate frm what I can tell and there is a pocket size tag. The cuff and waistband are almost certainly 100% wool and are far more robust that that on my Eastman jacket. There was some discussion regarding the thread color which in reality is neither olive nor fully tan but kind of splits the two colors if you can imagine that.
The lining is very nice and I do not think it will have any tendency to pill as did the Diamond Dave lining in the Cable.
The color is a little light for original russet jackets I have seen but only very slightly. The only place the jacket comes up short in my opinion is durability of the finish, but it scuffs just like an Aero, Eastman, or Good Wear semi-aniline finished jacket--zero difference and typical of high end reproductions. In fact, the leather is very similar to the leather on the Good Wear Rough Wear 1401-P jacket I had a couple of years ago.
The only other odd thing is that the box stitch on the hanger seems a little large, but again, not excessively so and I do not have an original to compare.
Would I buy another--yes, in fact I just ordered a 46 in seal. I am not in the habit of buying new repros; I almost always buy used in the secondary market, but at the price and quality, and the fact that the Dubow is one of my favorite contracts with the collar shape and pocket shape, it is a no brainer.
I would whole heartedly recommend this jacket, and in all honesty, it can compete without reservation with $1,000+ Aeros, Eastmans, and the Diamond Dave jackets all day long--in fact I think this is a far superior jacket to the Diamond Dave Dubow from the photos I have seen, particularly in terms of the distinctive collar point.
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