Mystery A2 jacket

Discussion in 'General Flight Jacket Discussion' started by Chevalier, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. Chevalier

    Chevalier New Member

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    Can anyone help me figure out who made this A2 jacket? I bought it at a local hospice thrift shop. Needless to say, I was not leaving without buying the jacket, despite the missing label. Too many signs of what seemed to be a serious A2 jacket were there: throat clasp, no hand warmer pockets, Talon zipper. Looking at some A2 identification sites, I thought it might be a Bronco or a Poughkeepsie, but the condition looks too good for it to be an original A2. I checked the pockets for additional labels, but no luck. Any resources or leads that anyone can give me are much appreciated. This one is definitely becoming part of my personal collection, so it would be nice to know info about maker and date.

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  2. Ken at Aero Leather

    Ken at Aero Leather Well-Known Member

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    It's not a repro, the verdigris on the collar hook rules that out for starters

    A full frontal shot would be a big help
     
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  3. dujardin

    dujardin Well-Known Member

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    maybe just some repairs (change of zipper)
    and some resew
    that's why the stitching is a little bit strange
     
  4. MikeyB-17

    MikeyB-17 Well-Known Member

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    You got that in a charity shop? Stone me there's hope for us all. Pics of the whole jacket rather than just the details would help, but that ain't no repro. Good find! Collar looks a bit Dubow-ish to me, but I make a pillock of myself every time I try to ID an A-2.
     
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  5. Ken at Aero Leather

    Ken at Aero Leather Well-Known Member

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    Zipper is original to the jacket, the "bit strange" stitching would be due to trying to knock these out in a hour or so.......there was a War going on at the time
     
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  6. Ken at Aero Leather

    Ken at Aero Leather Well-Known Member

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    Just recently a very special jacket made by me in 1970, with a ticket price of £200 / £300 back then, I forget the exact price and worth double that at least in today's 60's collectors market if it been put in ther right auction, got knocked down in a provincial auction for £30, so, yes, there are bargains out there still

    No I didn't get the jacket, only found out about it after it was sold
     
  7. Ken at Aero Leather

    Ken at Aero Leather Well-Known Member

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    Re the colour of the stitching.
    The top thread is Olive, The spool is filled with Rust thread (I've seen this two/tone before but I forget by which maker )
    The top stitch on the zipper is done the lazy way (again there was a war on) where the topstitch is done with lining side up from the top of the zipper to the hem, so the external stitching on the zipper is actually the (less attractive) back stitch and the nicer stitch is inside the jacket
    I've seen one or two of the repro makers using this method it saves time and requires less skill.
    It's very obvious when two shades of thread are used
     
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  8. Chevalier

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    Thanks so much for the info so far. I’m still digesting all of it and being very careful with the jacket! Sorry for not posting full pictures initially. I thought the details would be more helpful in identifying the jacket. Here is a full front and back photo. I’m happy to take any other photos that help unravel the mystery. Again...thanks for all the wisdom and expertise here. [​IMG][​IMG]


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  9. Silver Surfer

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    bronco or united sheeplined
     
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  10. Pilot

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    IMHO ...Bronco...A-2 ...all good... but experts here surely know better...I have the same in 38”
     
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  11. Ken at Aero Leather

    Ken at Aero Leather Well-Known Member

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  12. Chevalier

    Chevalier New Member

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    Thanks everyone! I have been intrigued by the A-2 because of all the postings I have been reading in the forums here. Honestly, I have been a bit overwhelmed by all the information available. It taught me enough, though, to know to buy this jacket when I saw it. I’m now officially bitten by the A-2 bug! I can focus better on Bronco now to learn more about this piece of history I am lucky enough to have found. Thanks again!


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  13. 2BM2K

    2BM2K Well-Known Member

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    If the shoulder seam is under the epaulette then it is a United Sheeplined, if the seam is behind
    the epaulette then a Bronco.
     
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  14. jeremiah

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  15. Juanito

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    Bronco as the side seam is standard as opposed to being reversed on the USL if I recall correctly.
     
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  16. Silver Surfer

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    ahhhh, i just remembered that us a-2s were fitted with crown,, conmar, and talon zippers. if i am not mistaken, both broncos and us used small ring snaps.
     
  17. Ken at Aero Leather

    Ken at Aero Leather Well-Known Member

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    It's hard to tell from the photo of the back but I can't see any shoulder seam,we need a close up
     
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  18. Edward

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    Good googly moogly, that thang is juicy! thrift store? and just when I thought those days were over.... lucky you!
     
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  19. Garylafortuna

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    Ken, take a close look at the right shoulder on the back photo. There are no visible stitches but there is a defined sharp edge right behind the epaulet which may indicate a seam. Or not.
     
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  20. taikonaut

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    Nice wearable jacket. What size is this and does it fit you?
     

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