McCoys RAF Irvin

[John Lever]

Nice sheepskin but Talon zips ?
At that price they could make more effort surely ?

R.A.F. IRVIN FLIGHT JACKET

The Real McCoy's reproduce products using methods and machinery of the past. For a successful reproduction, these garments require the sensitive minds of the detail-oriented Japanese craftsmen on every procedure.

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[Silver Surfer]

dum

 

[John Lever]

You can buy a half decent used car for that money

 

[Bombing IP]

Why can't a decent repro of a Irvin zip be made by someone and be sold to all the makers ? Lightning or dot please .

BIP

 

[Ken at Aero Leather]

Around £50000 does it, that's what the Soviet Zippers are going to cost.Aero's prices are about to go up anyway, we are seriously considering the Irvin Zipper investment and could still do a better Irvin for a third of that price.
Wouldn't shere the zippers though

 

[Bombing IP]

That seems like a lot of money for just a pull and a box ,I am sure that they could be fitted to an
existing zip teeth already available .

What does this mean / Wouldn't shere the zippers though .

BIP

 

[Ken at Aero Leather]

That seems like a lot of money for just a pull and a box ,I am sure that they could be fitted to an
existing zip teeth already available .

What does this mean / Wouldn't shere the zippers though .

BIP

We've investigagted that, if it's worth doing it's worth doing properly

If do go for these why would we sell them on to McCoy, Eastman, Five Star etc etc etc

 

[Smithy]

Nice sheepskin but Talon zips ?
At that price they could make more effort surely ?

R.A.F. IRVIN FLIGHT JACKET

The Real McCoy's reproduce products using methods and machinery of the past. For a successful reproduction, these garments require the sensitive minds of the detail-oriented Japanese craftsmen on every procedure.

therealmccoys.com

Who for the love of all that is holy spends 3,000 quid on a repro Irvin that isn't even accurate????!!!!

Rhetorical question! I know, I know it's the same vein as those cashed up dipshits that buy one of those fluorescent blue "B-3" jackets that Chapel flog.

I just don't get it though, if you were paying that kind of money for something as niche and specialised as a reproduction flying jacket you think you'd go for a more "accurate" repop or if you just wanted the "style" then an Aviation Leathercraft or suchlike for a fraction of that price.

The longer I've been into this stuff the sillier it seems to get with some companies.

 

[Ken at Aero Leather]

Smithy....................Greedier is the correct term

 

[ausreenactor]

You can buy a half decent used car for that money

I would buy the car!

 

[MikeyB-17]

Over three and a half grand. Sheesh. Strange days indeed.

 

[Pilot]

For Japan and their level of income, its average.

 

[Micawber]

Just proves that a price tag does necessarily equate to accuracy.

 

[ausreenactor]

Just proves that a price tag does necessarily equate to accuracy.

Perhaps for rifles and optics only.

 

[Pilot]

Just proves that a price tag does necessarily equate to accuracy.

Agree...

 

[Bombing IP]

It shows that the buying public does not do their homework ,or even care if its accurate .We are in the minority with regards to correct details ,the Real McCoys understands its market. The market research estimated what the punters will pay , and make up a nice story that will be not challenged .Voila let the money roll in easier than counterfeiting printing money and its legal . Market research is a powerful tool with regards to profit has nothing to do with what it costs to make but about how far you can push the price and the punters will pay .

BIP

 

[John Lever]

To put this into perspective I made an enquiry regarding a size 42 B3 at the London shop. They only have one. Previously they were only available as a non returnable order from Japan.
I don't see McCoys selling more than a handful of these 'Irvins'

 

[B-Man2]

I guess I’ll never understand the mentality of buying a repro at those prices, when for about the same price or a couple of hundred more an original could be had in fairly acceptable condition . In 10 years the repro will be worth about half its value, while the original will continue to appreciate . Just my thoughts on it all.

 

[Bombing IP]

OR TO PLAY THE DEVILS ADVOCATE , in ten years time the same jacket will cost $11,500 and the $3500 jacket here will still be worth what you paid for it or more ? .

BIP

 

[John Lever]

I guess I’ll never understand the mentality of buying a repro at those prices, when for about the same price or a couple of hundred more an original could be had in fairly acceptable condition . In 10 years the repro will be worth about half its value, while the original will continue to appreciate . Just my thoughts on it all.

I think a decent original is about a third of the price or less

RAF Irvin flying jacket, size 7

Thermally Insulated Flying Suit, Jacket. Stores reference 22c/323, size 7 (Ht. 6'2"-6'4", Br. 40"-42" Wt. 36-38"). Physically measures approximately 48-49” so should be suitable for around a 44” chest. This example is of typical early war configuration with single panel front and single seam...

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