Lost Worlds B-2

Discussion in 'General Flight Jacket Discussion' started by Miles, Mar 18, 2018.

  1. Miles

    Miles Active Member

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    Greetings y’all, hope winter is holding for you as it is me! I wanted to see if I could get some advice on my next commission. I’m thinking about getting a Black B-2 from Stuart. I was thinking about changing all the zippers to brass talons and adding a few holes to the belt. Would you recommend anything functionality-wise that the jacket is lacking otherwise?


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  2. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    Do you mean a black collar or body? I have seen pictures of originals with very dark brown collars.
     
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  3. Miles

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    I’m actually talking all black! I have seen a Buzz Ricksons that was super seal brown that was almost black and it may as well have been black! Black looks great on me so I say why not? I’m more interested in hearing y’alls thoughts the LWs Design Function [​IMG]


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  4. Silver Surfer

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    only to say that the lw jackets that i have come in contact with are made with extremely densely tanned hides, that seem to never "break" in. i had one their b-3s, and after some 3-4yrs of heavy winter usage, it would still stand up when thrown in a corner. even after those years of usage, it was still damn near impossible to bend the arms from the shoulder or at the elbow. btw, as i remeber, stu claimed that the b-3 he was making [still does] was a true authentic reproduction of a wwll original. well, not exactly. no biggie, but i couldnt fathom whey he insisted on putting a dubow label in his b-3s. dubow did not make b-3s during wwll. for all the difference that it makes, he could have just as well put a "harry's hat shop" label in the b-3 for that level of authenticity.
     
  5. Miles

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    [​IMG] LOL here is the goat shield on my LW ANJ-4. I don not know what doth speak of... maybe it’s you that has the problem.



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  6. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    Well said Vic. Black is a BR fantasy and not historically accurate.
     
  7. Miles

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    I don’t really care. It’s gonna be a moto jacket and a casual jacket. And actually that image I posted is a deep seal brown not black. But Stuart is usually a no comply with requests that aren’t historically accurate. He has agreed to make the coat. I just want to know people here who have actually had a B-2 to discuss what they would like improvement wise of functionality. Why’s is gotta be a black thang?


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  8. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    LW jackets speak for themselves. Historically accurate they are generally not, but bullet proof some certainly are! Lol. :rolleyes:
     
  9. Miles

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    My anj4 is the most historically accurate version I have ever seen.


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  10. Miles

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    Talking trash on LWs historically correctness is something I would like to debate. I also will say that I know his tanning was way too tough a few years back but as demonstrated above with my heavy shearling goat shields it’s apparent that they do break in if your man enough. The G-1 doesn’t look that far off even though he states it’s not supposed to be a totally accurate version, yet a revision. I’m still waiting to hear from someone who’s own any type of B2 to state some of the functionality issues they encountered.


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  11. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    You can debate it here. Having handled hundreds of original wartime USAAF jackets and repros I can say LW jackets are not as accurate as high end makers such as ELC and Goodwear.
     
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  12. Miles

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    Well then you better have some examples otherwise the sky is purple because you say so.


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  13. Miles

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    For the record the ELC is not historically accurate either first off using aniline tanning, seconding first thing I noticed at their brand newly revised ANJ4 is a huge split in the shearling collar in the back which was not accurate for version 1.


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  14. Miles

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    So for someone who claims to have handled 100s of USAF jackets, you must be missing the details.


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  15. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    They use aniline because it is the closest to Wartime chrome tanned leather. Modern chrome tanned leather is not considered accurate enough. Their B-3s are not made of the thick shearling used by LW.
     
  16. Roughwear

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    Which details are you talking about?
     
  17. Miles

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    you’re upside down. The cracking in my Sheepskin from LW looks to be plenty accurate to me...[​IMG]


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  18. Miles

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    Show me anywhere EMLC or GW has stitching this tight and accurate.
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  19. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    Please refrain from personal comments an abide by the rules of the forum.
     
  20. Miles

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    If you weren’t making upside down claims I wouldn’t have said so. If I get vetoed for saying your upside down, it’s the end of humanity.


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