G1 Nametag?

MuttleyReg1940

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Hello all i am new to this forum, i have just purchased a 1968 G1 which has ghost marks for two squadron patches on the front, but should a name tag (or the shadow of one) not be present?
Many thanks!!!
 

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B-Man2

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Hi Mutt
Welcome to VLJ!
One possibility could be wether your jacket is an original issued military jacket or a civilian G-1 . In the case of a civilian one someone could have patched the jacket but never bothered to put a name tag on it. I only suggest this because the knits on your jacket are either replacement knits or if they are original to the jacket , then it’s a civilian jacket, as military issued G-1s had dark chocolate brown knits . If you show us a photo of the jackets label that would help to determine its originality .
Cheers
 

B-Man2

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Many thanks, It has had Squadron patches on it but no name tag. I was curious if the USN did allow squadron patches but no name tag or if was just a surplus jacket someone put patches on.
You would have to know a little about the history of your particular jacket to answer most of those questions. I don’t know if I was able help out, but at least you now know that that some originals were patched while some weren’t .
 

Flightengineer

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I had beautiful issued Brill Bros G-1 from early 70s, which one my american friend bought for me from the family of a former E-2C crew member, he was a member of the VAW-78 and this jacket had an incredibly beautiful squadron patch on right chest and didn't have a nametag on the left (and no trases/shadow from it on leather too). Unfortunately, there was no possible to ask why this happened cause the owner went to his perpetual flight. I can assume that this was somehow related to the fact that the VAW-78 was a reserve squadron. I think maybe respected member @Phrog Driver as a former USN pilot can clarify this.
Even though the tag size was 42 it fits more like 38 and I sold it to one guy (who is also possibly a member here). I miss this jacket cause I really like this patch and also one of my old instructors on the 737 was as a reserve USN pilot and once flew with this squadron a long time ago. To be honest, this is the only patch that if it got to me (and I serch it from time to time), especially the early one, I would sew it on my unpatched issued G-1. I'll find it one day.
 

Flightengineer

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FAO Flightengineer!!!!
Yes, this is the same version (second) that was on G-1 I sold




I have one as on your link, MuttleyReg1940, but for some reason it is smaller than it was on sold jacket (may be it's flight suit size - not jacket size).

I'm looking for an earlier version when they flew the E-1Tracer (before E-2C)


 
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Phrog Driver

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I had beautiful issued Brill Bros G-1 from early 70s, which one my american friend bought for me from the family of a former E-2C crew member, he was a member of the VAW-78 and this jacket had an incredibly beautiful squadron patch on right chest and didn't have a nametag on the left (and no trases/shadow from it on leather too). Unfortunately, there was no possible to ask why this happened cause the owner went to his perpetual flight. I can assume that this was somehow related to the fact that the VAW-78 was a reserve squadron. I think maybe respected member @Phrog Driver as a former USN pilot can clarify this.
Even though the tag size was 42 it fits more like 38 and I sold it to one guy (who is also possibly a member here). I miss this jacket cause I really like this patch and also one of my old instructors on the 737 was as a reserve USN pilot and once flew with this squadron a long time ago. To be honest, this is the only patch that if it got to me (and I serch it from time to time), especially the early one, I would sew it on my unpatched issued G-1. I'll find it one day.
FE, there could be no nametag on that jacket for any number of reasons. First of all, it was not required when the squadron in question was in existence. I cannot speak to Marine Corps, but back in the day the Navy never required anything to be sewn on leather flight jackets, nor did they limit things being sewn on. That was left up to the individual unit commanders. Most people wanted to at least put wings and their name or call sign, if for no other reason than to discourage theft, but you got the occasional guy who did not. Original owner could have also been a "ground pounder" (mechanic or admin staff) and would not have been authorized to wear wings, or technically even the jacket, so did not wish to draw attention to that. Hard to say. Current guidelines are here https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/support/uniforms/uniformregulations/chapter6/Pages/6801.aspx Hope this helps.
 

Flightengineer

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FE, there could be no nametag on that jacket for any number of reasons. First of all, it was not required when the squadron in question was in existence. I cannot speak to Marine Corps, but back in the day the Navy never required anything to be sewn on leather flight jackets, nor did they limit things being sewn on. That was left up to the individual unit commanders. Most people wanted to at least put wings and their name or call sign, if for no other reason than to discourage theft, but you got the occasional guy who did not. Original owner could have also been a "ground pounder" (mechanic or admin staff) and would not have been authorized to wear wings, or technically even the jacket, so did not wish to draw attention to that. Hard to say. Current guidelines are here https://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/support/uniforms/uniformregulations/chapter6/Pages/6801.aspx Hope this helps.
Many thanks, John!
 
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