Five Star IP theft?

[CombatWombat]

Hey Shawn Ali.....
Apparently some asshat by the name of Sean Collins is saying that you are stealing his jacket patch artwork over on Facebook "reproduction fought jacket review"

 

[Otter]

Sean used to be a member on here. He got in a few arguments and was asked to leave.
I do regret giving him detailed photos of my Burma blood chit.

 

[ties70]

Sean's work is among the best (I would buy his non-printed stuff, but I doubt he would sell me anything...) but the guy has a difficult personality...

He got banned here, and kicked off a couple of us other patch makers from his FB groups in return.... That is his right and fair enough. He seems to have some issues to let go, though.... He kept trash-talking me on Shawn's FS FB group, not knowing that Shawn and I get along pretty good and have worked together on several of FS jackets, so Shawn decided to kick him out there as well. The talk about IP violation is relatively new, and started with a Lafayette escadrille patch.... Shawn's guys reproduced it as a multi-leather patch... Which is Sean's specialty, but I doubt that he has the copyright on any of the WWII designs he offers.

Ties

 

[FreddyF9]

Sean's work is among the best (I would buy his non-printed stuff, but I doubt he would sell me anything...) but the guy has a difficult personality...

He got banned here, and kicked off a couple of us other patch makers from his FB groups in return.... That is his right and fair enough. He seems to have some issues to let go, though.... He kept trash-talking me on Shawn's FS FB group, not knowing that Shawn and I get along pretty good and have worked together on several of FS jackets, so Shawn decided to kick him out there as well. The talk about IP violation is relatively new, and started with a Lafayette escadrille patch.... Shawn's guys reproduced it as a multi-leather patch... Which is Sean's specialty, but I doubt that he has the copyright on any of the WWII designs he offers.

Ties

I do not know this Sean fellow but, if he got even a patient guy like FiveStar’s Shawn to kick him out, he must be quite hot blooded!

 

[Silver Surfer]

Dunno about any possible infringement, but I do know Sean.in fact I introduced him to the vlj, back in the day. Like many one man bands, he is barely making a living designing, and copying patches, so any threat to his income, would engender some push back.he does not suffer fools, and never did, thus some “issues” with some folks.

 

[CBI]

Sean does a great job. He does slightly alter his patches in a way that he can tell they are his version. An extra curve here or corner there. If someone does a Google image search to make their own patch and copies one of his, he can tell. That said, he has probably not received official permission/copyright on any of these designs so its a sort of non issue.

 

[Cocker]

Sean is a piece of art... He's been threatening and spewing shit on people that are doing leather patches everywhere around the internet with the only aim of trying to cut these guy's share and have more order. There was a point in time when every time Miroslav Sekulic would paint a patch, Sean would have the exact same one available 1 or 2 days after that and boast how superior and made in an historically correct way it was compared to any other. He did that for multiple times.

What I find utterly laughable is that Sean was having a fit a couple years ago on FB because the daughter of an AVG pilot, who's now in charge of the association, was threatening to sue him because of copyright infringement. He was boasting that his patch was different than the original one and that, anyway, the design was public property, yadda yadda... And now he's doing exactly the same!

I appreciate people being passionate about what they are doing, especially in the art domain. But if you have to throw shit on other guy's work in the same line of business as you just to try and make yours look better, to me, it speaks volume about you.

 

[Kermit3D]

I don't understand well, are the patches/nose art dating from the second world war subject to copyright ?

 

[CombatWombat]

I don't understand well, are the patches/nose art dating from the second world war subject to copyright ?

Some of them are due to the squadron associations have taken out patents on them

 

[CombatWombat]

And it seems he's booted me out of his little group.....after saying about "I'm best friends with Gary Eastman, so I'm waaaaaaaay better than that Pakistani cheat"
But only after harrassing me about knowing that Shawn Ali isn't the shitbird that he made out

 

[Micawber]

Que sera sera....

 

[VeraVoulik]

Sean is a piece of art... He's been threatening and spewing shit on people that are doing leather patches everywhere around the internet with the only aim of trying to cut these guy's share and have more order. There was a point in time when every time Miroslav Sekulic would paint a patch, Sean would have the exact same one available 1 or 2 days after that and boast how superior and made in an historically correct way it was compared to any other. He did that for multiple times.

What I find utterly laughable is that Sean was having a fit a couple years ago on FB because the daughter of an AVG pilot, who's now in charge of the association, was threatening to sue him because of copyright infringement. He was boasting that his patch was different than the original one and that, anyway, the design was public property, yadda yadda... And now he's doing exactly the same!

I appreciate people being passionate about what they are doing, especially in the art domain. But if you have to throw shit on other guy's work in the same line of business as you just to try and make yours look better, to me, it speaks volume about you.

Pity it's sooo true in every artistic ways. I've had the same problem cause another jacket's artist felt threatened by my works...which is quite laughable as we aren't in the same line/style.

 

[Kermit3D]

In my opinion, a talented artist should not have to worry about competition.
And the reverse is probably true... someone who is looking for exclusivity on a design, is not able to differentiate himself by talent.

 

[FlakMagnet]

"Someone's copying my copy of a copy of a copy. I'm offended, and I have rights!" -Certain People On the Internet.

 

[flyincowboy]

Any way they just repro patches! and mine are the best to wear on a repro jacket !!!

 

[ausreenactor]

Meh...

 

[Cocker]

In my opinion, a talented artist should not have to worry about competition.
And the reverse is probably true... someone who is looking for exclusivity on a design, is not able to differentiate himself by talent.

Exactly. And it's especially sad in his case as he IS trully the best in terms of layered leather patches.

 

[Ed Rooney]

The worst thing about Narcissistic Personality Disorder is that you can’t TELL someone they have it.

 

[ausreenactor]

Exactly. And it's especially sad in his case as he IS trully the best in terms of layered leather patches.

His wife contributes in a big way too.

 

[Cocker]

His wife contributes in a big way too.

I remember him mentionning that she was the one doing the script for his leather blood chits as she was chinese, indeed!