Early A-4 Flight suits

Discussion in 'Related Gear' started by Roughwear, Jul 10, 2018.

  1. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    Does anyone know the production number of the first two A-4 flight suit orders? They are 31-297P and 33-1737P. I would imagine they would be fairly small judging by the small number of A-2s supplied to the AC from 1931-3.
     
  2. Carl

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    Possibly "Security Aviation Togs"
     
  3. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    They were actually made by the Lee Corporation as were many early A-4 suits.
     
  4. Carl

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    It does mention the use of "Lee" snap buttons in Full Gear .Were "Lee" a manufacturer of clothing to the US Military ? only one confirmed manufacturer in the list Andrew and the Security Aviation Togs example shown in Mathieu Bianchi's publication .
    Where to find such contract info ? :(
     
  5. Carl

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    Is "Lee" the same company that produced denim jeans etc ?
     
  6. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    Yes, they did make the famous jeans too. H. D Lee Corporation was a large maker of work wear and had several contracts for A-4 suits. I suspect their early contracts were quite small just as early A-2 ones were, ie. under 2,000.

    https://www.lee.com/about/history.html
     
  7. Carl

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    i read that same website Andrew , but found no mention of aviation suits only coveralls which i presumed to be for the civilian market ? .
     
  8. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    There is no mention of them on this website, but in Full Gear there are pictures of 31-297P with "Lee" stamped on the snaps.
     
  9. Carl

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    Unfortunately the contracts from pre 40 are not covered by my lists , but after a quick check there are listings for H D Lee from 40 onwards
     
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  10. zoomer

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    Once again reminders that the pre WW2 era essentially never happened, certainly not from the perspective of today's business or military. The '30s especially were a period where both were at all-time lows.
     
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  11. Pilot

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  12. Pilot

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    This is my A-4.
    Nice minty condition and belonged to Capt. I.L Davis.
     
  13. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    What a great A-4 suit. It dates to the 1941 fiscal year.
     
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  14. Carl

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    Another "wartime" contract number shown in Full Gears list of A4's i havnt been able to identify :(
     
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  15. Roughwear

    Roughwear Well-Known Member

    I have a first contract A-4 in my collection which dates to the 1931 fiscal year, order 31-297P. I will be starting a separate thread on it tomorrow on this very rare survivor which belonged to a senior inter-War AC officer.

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  16. Greg Gale

    Greg Gale Well-Known Member

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    I know I'm color deficient, but these look OD to me, whereas most repros are tan/ kakhi. So what's the accurate color?
     
  17. Carl

    Carl Well-Known Member

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    Above /|\
     
  18. Greg Gale

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    Yes, but as I've said I'm slightly color deficient :) Is it really greenish, like it seems to me?
     
  19. Pilot

    Pilot Well-Known Member

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    Mine is greenish OD.
     
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  20. Greg Gale

    Greg Gale Well-Known Member

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    WPG offers a nice repro, and many reviewers say it looks identical to their original ones, but hey, this doesn't look greenish to me at all:

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    Then again, I've found pictures of originals of the same color, which don't look greenish to my screwed up eyes either :confused: :
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