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[Whatsit]

Please have a go at costing an A-2
Materials breakdown, % for wages, rents, rates, NI insurance, pension contributions, website, etc etc
It would be interesting to see what you think it would cost.

Exactly Ken!

 

[jimmy greene]

I ordered a A-2 dubow from J.A Dubow MFG when i raid that there where out of russet raids i sent a email to there paypal address [email protected] .I got reply from Bill Kkelso Mfg ??

 

[jeremiah]

Well what did you think the bk in bkchicago stood for?

 

[Whatsit]

Does this new info effect what we know about the jacket currently? Or effect the quality of the jacket?
Just wondering

 

[jeremiah]

not at all. Platon knows what he is doing.

 

[johnwayne]

Interestingly I'm sure only a day or two ago I looked at BK's website and they were listed as Milton Keynes, here in the UK but, has anyone read their warranties and very strong claims? The last one is particularly interesting in that they'll replace a returned jacket with another manufacturers if theirs is deemed not so accurate! Bet that would fun, a. Trying to prove which is the more faithful repro and b. Getting the replacement from whoever and lastly c. The time this would all take!!
If I've got that right you could order a BK then complain and end up with GW 2 or more years down the line!!!

 

[Pilot]

Should have kept my RW 27752 which was by all means a pure BK invention and by all means far from accurate if compared to a WW2 RW 27752. ( just compare the pockets, the bulky sleeves and torso design) and keep my laywers busy... plus his as well...pay them doing nothing anyway...
..plus my ex A-2 from Greece was a disaster in quality of make and craftmanship...( eg neck stitching, leather dye, knitwear etc..). No more, never again.

 

[Brettafett]

I wonder if Platon took his production artisan with him....

 

[Ken at Aero Leather]

Being as basic as possible, IMO there are three ways of pricing a product

How much can we get away with charging and still sell enough? (usually involves an Advertising campaign to establish a "perceived value)
How much do we really need the product to sell for?
How little can we get away with charging (without bankrupting ourselves) to launch a new product, new company?

When we launched our A-2 (early 1980s) we charged £75 to get our foot in the door, no internet, we used E&M, that price quickly went up to over £100 as the demand increased, ended up around £125 which is what we actually needed for the jacket

 

[Whatsit]

I know this isn’t anything to do with jackets but it’s similar enough that I feel I can repeat it here.
I have a friend that makes a living making Native American flutes. It’s just him making the flutes. He makes them once you order. They are extremely cheap to buy. He makes them the way it was past down to him from generations of ancestors. Because the quality is excellent and the price is too good to be true his demand is crazy high. So high that he couldn’t keep up and ended up getting kicked off of Amazon because the wait was sometimes 3-4 months. I said to him to raise the price and hire more people to help. He refused. He said this is what he wants to do. The mans a genius in his profession and there’s no changing him or his thoughts. When I talk to Platon I feel like I’m talking to my friend Grey Fox. I truly believe Platon will make these as slow as he wants. Even if it takes months. What I’m trying to say is from what I learned from grey fox and Platon is they are making a quality piece for a set cheep price that’s here to stay. But we just wait and see what happens. I’ve been known to be wrong more then I haven’t lately, but I may be wrong about that too :0)

 

[johnwayne]

Ah, good old Exchange and Mart, the weekly bible if you wanted to buy and sell anything, yes anything! That's where I got my first terribly inaccurate and flimsy A2 from Quartermasters in Islington, apparently made for the TV series 'We'll Meet Again' about an 8th AF bomber crew. I was delighted at the time but we live and learn!

 

[Silver Surfer]

i have purchased a coupla a-2s and hbs from bk, and each and every one was of the highest quality in materials, and construction. and...........rumor has it that bk is going forward with reproducing the goldsmith a-2.

 

[Ken at Aero Leather]

.rumor has it that bk is going forward with reproducing the goldsmith a-2.

Like the Number 25 Bus, none for decades then they all arrive at once :>)

 

[Ken at Aero Leather]

Ah, good old Exchange and Mart, the weekly bible if you wanted to buy and sell anything, yes anything! That's where I got my first terribly inaccurate and flimsy A2 from Quartermasters in Islington, apparently made for the TV series 'We'll Meet Again' about an 8th AF bomber crew. I was delighted at the time but we live and learn!

Didn't The Clash do a photo shoot at Quartermasters on a tank? I'm pretty sure I'm right but I can't recall for which album, Sandanista? It was about that date
You were in an out of The Thrift Shop in your youth, I'm prety sure The Clash must have been blasting out on at least one occasion?

 

[Officer Dibley]

Being as basic as possible, IMO there are three ways of pricing a product

How much can we get away with charging and still sell enough? (usually involves an Advertising campaign to establish a "perceived value)
How much do we really need the product to sell for?
How little can we get away with charging (without bankrupting ourselves) to launch a new product, new company?

When we launched our A-2 (early 1980s) we charged £75 to get our foot in the door, no internet, we used E&M, that price quickly went up to over £100 as the demand increased, ended up around £125 which is what we actually needed for the jacket

Exchange & Mart .... there's a blast from the past. "Talbot House Textiles" of Malton sold on there. I remember small sized 1936 patt boots for a fiver !

 

[Whatsit]

Here’s to Platon’s success in this business. Now the average guy will get to own what only a select few have had the ability to own.

 

[Whatsit]

Has anyone that recently ordered a jacket from Platon heard anything from him lately?

 

[B-Man2]

Has anyone that recently ordered a jacket from Platon heard anything from him lately?

Ditto here.
Im anxiously waiting to see one of these new Dubows. Has anyone received theirs yet?

 

[Brettafett]

www.vintageleatherjackets.org/threads/platons-j-a-dubow-27798-size-44-from-greece.21364/

Well worth the penny me thinks....

 

[Smithy]

They do look great but they're no bloody good if you're tall sadly.