AVI LTHR Bronco updated 2019 version

Pilot

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Off the records and purpose...
Right now in Jakarta...trying to get a few of those “cheapies” out of the “ cheap” legal system of a a “cheap” country... Indonesia...
All of a sudden all those buying only cheap cheap by all means...ask for assistance from a system which they condemned and spit on it during years....
Now happy to have a not so cheap, organized operation working for them...
All of them are sick ill and need treatment...and the one not buying cheap will pay for them...yak!
 

Flightengineer

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For those interested... Out of curiosity, I emailed AVI (Morten) a week or so ago about any updates, Perry etc... They've been quiet.
Just received a brief reply to the effect of, "Yes, we are still working on it". They want to take their jackets up a notch, and are looking to China to reproduce their originals. First up is a horsehide version of the Bronco, and possibly reproducing their original M422a also. Have a test version of the Bronco being made-up and depending how that turns out, will go from there.
Based on what I've seen online, the Chinese repros look pretty good, never seen one in person though. What do you gents think? Could be good, no?
I think that Five Stars overshadowed AVI in this segment, making jackets similar to Morten's jackets first, then quickly improving them and providing quick feedback and good service and low price.
AVI will be interesting if they come closer in quality to the level of Platon's jackets at the same time with the right zips etc. and will be cheaper than Platon's jackets. Then Morton has a chance. It's my personal opinion.
 

B-Man2

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Interesting conversation ... If I might weigh in here, I liked the AVI jackets when they first hit the market. The goat hides were a little on the thick side for an A2, but they are bullet proof and very durable. But the problem is that there’s no secondary resale market for them. I’ve had one for sale for sometime now with little or no interest. At first I thought I had priced it too high on EBay, so I added the “make an offer” to the starting price. Still nothing. My own thoughts are that AVI needs better marketing because people don’t seem to be interested in them.
 

Bombing IP

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The AVI company does what it wants thus it reaps no benefits ,I tried weighing in with some gentle input with a few emails back and forth with him but he was not interested .The Bronco jacket he has for sale has been improved a few times but is still way off the mark for someone who copied an original . The leather looks so much like a G1 jacket and is the wrong color and the rivets are wrong yardi yah .This is not a new company but their progression has not got much further than a 1978 Avirex ,at least the Avirex made a horsehide version .Disappointing for a company owner who is fascinated by the almighty flight jacket .

Jeff
 
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Smithy

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The Bronco jacket he has for sale has been improved a few times but is still way off the mark for someone who copied an original . The leather looks so much like a G1 jacket and is the wrong color
I think Dmitry hit the nail on the head that 5 Star have probably overtaken AVI now in this price bracket but in fairness to AVI, the leather on my goatskin Bronco is absolutely nothing like the goatskin on a G-1 either in look nor feel.

Maybe you had a newer one Jeff which was like that but the goatskin on the Bronco which I purchased in July 2018 is nothing like that on a G-1.
 

Brettafett

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I think that's the reason for the move to China. I think they've become frustrated with the Pakistan guys not being able to make a better copy. My latest AVI Bronco is my favourite so far, but ironically its the least accurate 'Bronco'. Its a great generic everyday wearer. I recall there was a thread a while back about Chinese repros, and they looked pretty good. I don't think anyone actually bought one though. It will be interesting to see if they do end up producing another repro, how these will compare to the likes of Platon's jacket.
 

Brettafett

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My 2019 AVI A-2's goat is very different to my AVI G-1. Thinner, lighter, drapes differently and is very comfortable. There was a previous batch that was thicker and quite robust...
To be honest though, with Platon's Dubow being what it is, its going to be hard to beat. Still, more makers getting stuck in the better.
 

Bombing IP

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My statement about the leather looking like the G1 is just that it's the grain type and the color not the thickness .To me owning AVI A2 an G1 you have 2 jackets with very similar type leathers just different patterns ,BORING . At least AVI should copy the color of the original Bronco.

Jeff
 

Smithy

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My AVI Bronco is nowhere near the colour of a G-1. I got my one in their seal which is actually a mid chocolate brown and very like you see on originals. In terms of grain and finish it's not like what you get on a G-1.

Like I said earlier, maybe they've changed but my Bronco isn't like what you're describing especially this idea of leather similarity to a G-1. I'm pretty sure Dmitry's Bronco which is a similar vintage to mine is also unlike this as well so maybe it's their newer jackets which display this.
 

zoomer

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It could be that they’re a bit garmento over there...that would explain the detail choices as well as the slender sizing...
 

Flightengineer

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My AVI Bronco is nowhere near the colour of a G-1. I got my one in their seal which is actually a mid chocolate brown and very like you see on originals. In terms of grain and finish it's not like what you get on a G-1.

Like I said earlier, maybe they've changed but my Bronco isn't like what you're describing especially this idea of leather similarity to a G-1. I'm pretty sure Dmitry's Bronco which is a similar vintage to mine is also unlike this as well so maybe it's their newer jackets which display this.
Yes, exactly Tim. My jacket is the first AVI's Bronco version. After zipper replaced, a pretty good jacket for the money. Leather and colour not as on G-1 jackets.

 

Smithy

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Yes, exactly Tim. My jacket is the first AVI's Bronco version. After zipper replaced, a pretty good jacket for the money. Leather and colour not as on G-1 jackets.

I think yours and mine are made from the same leather Dmitry as mine looks to be exactly the same shade of chocolate brown as yours.

Looks great my friend, you should wear it more often!
 

Flightengineer

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I think yours and mine are made from the same leather Dmitry as mine looks to be exactly the same shade of chocolate brown as yours.

Looks great my friend, you should wear it more often!
Thanks.Yes, you are probably right. This pic from last year. Moreover, I have a project for patching it, before I had no time for it, maybe now I'll have it.
 

Brettafett

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I had one like that, the one I aged a bit. I sold it to a RAF pilot earlier this year. That jacket is closer to the Bronco pattern than the one I currently have. This one is also a bit darker, more browny colour... its very much like the Bronco at the Air Force museum in Hendon. It may not be very accurate for a Bronco, but I love the feel and drape and comfort of it.
 
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