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AVI LTHR Bronco updated 2019 version

Brettafett

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Just received an email from AVI. Size 46 and 48s available...
ps I'm not the spokesman, just interested. If you want measurements pls contact AVI
 
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Changeling

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Looks a lot better in the pocket flaps. I see on the site the russet jacket still seems to show the older version in the photos. Veg tanned goatskin for 379 Euros, looks good but a little too small for me in the largest size.
 

herk115

Active Member
I'm also curious, if someone has owned high end/top tier Repro flight jackets like GW etc....he won't choose other markers any more.
Currently I have 4 ELCs and 2 GWs in my closet. I have owned RMNZ in the past. Now, nothing against GW, ELC, Aero, BK...they're all good guys, easy to work with, and make fine products. But as was pointed out above, on even my most high-end, expensive, perfectly made repro, I have found flaws. My current crop of ELCs and GWs have flaws, either in the physical assembly, or the fact that they just don't look any better than a $500 mid-range jacket from eBay. Also, as has been pointed out above, I don't dare stick a needle into a $1000+ USD jacket, which actually robs me of some of the authenticity and enjoyment of the jacket. Face it, folks, an A-2 without name strip, rank, and squadron patch is kinda boring. But I have no problem "patching" a cheaper mid-range jacket. So the net result? My last two purchases have been Gibson & Barnes, and I'm quite happy with them. Be realistic: even most of us hard core collectors can't tell the difference between a good mid-range and a high-end from farther than three or four feet away. And the differences we do spot are, for less hard core collectors, very trivial. If we hadn't put so much of our lives into studying A-2 jackets, even us hard core guys wouldn't care about these minor differences, if we even noticed them. So to answer the question, you bet your ever lovin' A I'll choose other, less expensive makers. By the formula presented above, with my G&B I get 90% of the jacket (or more) for 40% (or less) of the cost. It's a no-brainer.

And just FYI, a couple years ago I bought a Pro-Tech A-2 on eBay for $80. You never heard of them either? Guess what? It looks awesome!
 

Bombing IP

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I have written to AVI and asked why they do not sell an A2 in Horsehide or Steerhide ,and they asked me whats wrong with goatskin . I told them it does not age so if it does not age it does not gain character . I sent him a picture of a repro A2 with some serious wear ,which he did not reply to . Goat is fine for a G1 but they have been made with cowhide for 40 years made to look like goat with machine impress faux stamping . I do not like goatskin I like horse or cowhide ,if the AVI company were to make one out of these skins I would probably get one .I have had GW ELC ,G&B,SMW,LW,Buzz Rickson none of them have been perfect my Favs have been SMW and Lost Worlds A2 .

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Brettafett

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They have a horsehide Perry on the way... Apparently it'll go into production soon, now that the Bronco is available.
I guess the grading is weird, as they have one original, in one size to work from. Gotta start somewhere....
 

zoomer

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These days there is a fashionable physique and build, so they're going to cater to that, because that's part of the formula for success now.
 

johnwayne

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'Gotta start somewhere....' The nail on the head, these guys don't have the knowledge like the mainstream top end producers. ELC, GW and Aero for instance have history and experience due to the knowledge they've accrued and the desire for accuracy from what probably started as a hobby. Can these newbies really see the subtle differences between contracts, much like the man on the street (or my missus for that matter!) to turn out faithful repros? I get the impression they are just pandering to requests based on orders based on making a sale and, profit. I'll be very surprised if in a few years time they'll be offering several 'maker' A2's, probably maybe just a generic house version. Yes I know it's a budget thing but some of the flag waving seen so far has yet to be justified from the evidence I've seen, sorry if that offends some but as I said earlier, not for me. If you're gonna do something do it right!
 

Technonut2112

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Yes I know it's a budget thing
Then instead of trolling budget threads, offer some alternatives for folks in their price range to be helpful. Constantly berating threads offering budget jackets do not help others who simply cannot afford, or even entertain saving up the $1000.00 + USD for a detailed premium maker. The only other reasonably detailed jacket in a lower price range that I'm aware of is Platon's Dubow at $500.00 USD + shipping and a 4+ month wait.

I'm sure that folks interested in a budget jacket are quite aware that some details found on the more expensive offerings will not be present, hence the budget cost. There are usually plenty of pics in these threads as well. It serves no purpose to troll threads offering budget jackets that do not interest you in the least.. If you don't like them, fine... there's no reason to go on pointing out exactly what makes them able to be offered at the lower prices. There seems to be quite a few members interested in, and actually purchasing many of the budget jackets offered in various threads on this forum (I'm one of them). As long as they are satisfied and happy with their purchases, why rain on their parade?

EDIT: I'm not posting about this AVI jacket in particular.. Personally, I think they can do a bit better for the price, considering that they have an original to work with, but I also take into consideration that others may like it, and is within their price-range. I'm speaking about posts I've seen in other budget jacket threads on the forum as well..
 
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Bombing IP

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Technonut you make some very good points . I am one who is an A2 lover but not at the prices they are at now .That said the lower end makers can do better because they need to imitate the tailoring style (folds cuts stiching assembly style etc) this costs no money at all just need attention to detail . Fancy leather is not important as it was not important in WW2 nor was perfection .What is important is the specific company manufacturing culture style that need to be duplicated ,and this is where AVI and many other companies fail . They need to invest in original A2 WW2 originals and Sherlock Holmes the jacket that's your R&D all done for you.

Me I will buy jackets used as I know my measurements this has 3 pluses ,
(1) you save 75%
(2) Some of the leather character provoking has been done for you
(3) Resale does not hurt and you will get close to what you paid for it .

The birth of the Platon Dubow in my opinion has an effect on the used market no longer is is it a good deal to get a premium jacket for 50% of $1500 used .When you can get a Platon Dubow for $500 new and your size ,no brainer ?.

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