Army A-2 is officially official

Ed Rooney

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Ok, gotcha. 15P is flight ops, right? Back before they realigned Aviation MOS numbers with combat arms, flight ops was a 93P. When they got rid of the OH-58A/C, they made many of us observers switch to 93P or 93C, but I rolled back into being a Huey crew chief.

I guess the E-9 to Commissioned officer part is totally foreign to me. It just doesn’t happen here. A quick Google of Australian Army ranks is telling me that your senior NCOs, like E-7 to E-9, are actually warrant officers. Is that right?



Currently all Aviation officer positions are open to pilots only. There are some legacy commissions who occupy standards or admin roles. I had planned to commission to take up a 2IC role until they made the policy change. Etiquette states a new Chief of Army can not rescind policy changes, only the third Chief can?

I am the '15P' E-9. I have a refueller/ordnance peer at BDE HQ. We both wear the Chrome Army Aviation badge. Our enlisted Aircrewmen do to. They are like 'crew chiefs'; however, most are not technically proficient. Just 'meat mirrors'. Our maintainers are Royal Australian Electrical and Mechanical Engineers. The 'mafia' are a law unto themselves and drive rate of effort and tempo with their complex requirements and restrictions.

Air Force are flying focused and look after their aircrew. Army don't do it that well.

16 years on and we are finally moving to Apache. I said Tiger was the wrong choice from the outset. The British aviation industry has been killing it for overv100 years and they went Apache. Spoke volumes....
 

ausreenactor

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Ok, gotcha. 15P is flight ops, right? Back before they realigned Aviation MOS numbers with combat arms, flight ops was a 93P. When they got rid of the OH-58A/C, they made many of us observers switch to 93P or 93C, but I rolled back into being a Huey crew chief.

I guess the E-9 to Commissioned officer part is totally foreign to me. It just doesn’t happen here. A quick Google of Australian Army ranks is telling me that your senior NCOs, like E-7 to E-9, are actually warrant officers. Is that right?
E-8 is Warrant Officer Class 2 and E-9 is Warrant Officer Class 1.
 
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