Army A-2 is officially official

Ed Rooney

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Ok, gotcha. 15P is flight ops, right? Back before they realigned Aviation MOS numbers with combat arms, flight ops was a 93P. When they got rid of the OH-58A/C, they made many of us observers switch to 93P or 93C, but I rolled back into being a Huey crew chief.

I guess the E-9 to Commissioned officer part is totally foreign to me. It just doesn’t happen here. A quick Google of Australian Army ranks is telling me that your senior NCOs, like E-7 to E-9, are actually warrant officers. Is that right?



Currently all Aviation officer positions are open to pilots only. There are some legacy commissions who occupy standards or admin roles. I had planned to commission to take up a 2IC role until they made the policy change. Etiquette states a new Chief of Army can not rescind policy changes, only the third Chief can?

I am the '15P' E-9. I have a refueller/ordnance peer at BDE HQ. We both wear the Chrome Army Aviation badge. Our enlisted Aircrewmen do to. They are like 'crew chiefs'; however, most are not technically proficient. Just 'meat mirrors'. Our maintainers are Royal Australian Electrical and Mechanical Engineers. The 'mafia' are a law unto themselves and drive rate of effort and tempo with their complex requirements and restrictions.

Air Force are flying focused and look after their aircrew. Army don't do it that well.

16 years on and we are finally moving to Apache. I said Tiger was the wrong choice from the outset. The British aviation industry has been killing it for overv100 years and they went Apache. Spoke volumes....
 

ausreenactor

Well-Known Member
Ok, gotcha. 15P is flight ops, right? Back before they realigned Aviation MOS numbers with combat arms, flight ops was a 93P. When they got rid of the OH-58A/C, they made many of us observers switch to 93P or 93C, but I rolled back into being a Huey crew chief.

I guess the E-9 to Commissioned officer part is totally foreign to me. It just doesn’t happen here. A quick Google of Australian Army ranks is telling me that your senior NCOs, like E-7 to E-9, are actually warrant officers. Is that right?
E-8 is Warrant Officer Class 2 and E-9 is Warrant Officer Class 1.
 

Ed Rooney

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Here are the epaulets. So, in addition to the baggy, $400, air forcey looking A-2, soldiers must spend an additional $30 on quite possibly the dumbest thing ever attached to an A-2 outside of a Cockpit Catalog.

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CBI

Well-Known Member
I am be wrong, but it seems silly to not show actual color photos of the uniforms insltread on these silly line drawings. its that way throughout the entire manual.

in re the OP, I do think its cool that the easter A-2-ish jacket is coming back.
 

rob20uk

Active Member
Believe it or Not, but Hasbro has secured the contract. But apparently there are major and significant design changes, looks nothing like the classic A-2 the Air Force readopted it the late 80's.View attachment 39717
It’s funny but honestly I would not be surprised if it was actually something like that that. The world is going to pot...
 

Bremspropeller

Active Member
Funny they call it "(Bomber)" - are there any secret plans that the Army hasn't yet publicly spoken aout?
All those Kiowa-warriors being shoved over to some B-17 unit they forgot they still had somwhere?

Somebody's got it all figured out...
 

Ed Rooney

Well-Known Member
In theory you could roll a bomb out the back of a chinook, just like they do with C-130s.

I think they are officially calling it the “Leather Service Jacket”. Bomber was just the nickname as they were developing it.


Funny they call it "(Bomber)" - are there any secret plans that the Army hasn't yet publicly spoken aout?
All those Kiowa-warriors being shoved over to some B-17 unit they forgot they still had somwhere?

Somebody's got it all figured out...
 
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