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A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jacket!
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John Lever
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Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
I am waiting for the Ram foreskin multipanel version.
I am waiting for the Ram foreskin multipanel version.
John Lever
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Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
What do you think Swiss exercise balls are made from ??Dr H said:
Jason
Active Member
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
Like Soren, I work in an ultra cut-throat competitive environment. There's three big players in my game, and if one brings out a new product or service, the other two follow suit within days - wether they're prepared for it or not. I suspect something similar has happened here.
But lets forget the timing issue for a moment. Look through to the end result: there will be more choice for us. Oh sure, now a potential market has to be shared by two makers, perhaps diluting the profit that one might have had when they projected they'd be the only player in the game. But I think there will be room to comfortably support both, especially given that more choice offered to the market should overall equate to greater sales than if no choice were available. If my suspicions are correct, the two new players (not forgetting ELC are out there doing pretty good repros already, with Aero a short step behind) will end up differentiating themselves enough to create their own niches.
For my money, given whats on offer from the two so far, one fits my choice better than the other. Hopefully they won't be inundated with orders when I'm ready to go.
Like Soren, I work in an ultra cut-throat competitive environment. There's three big players in my game, and if one brings out a new product or service, the other two follow suit within days - wether they're prepared for it or not. I suspect something similar has happened here.
But lets forget the timing issue for a moment. Look through to the end result: there will be more choice for us. Oh sure, now a potential market has to be shared by two makers, perhaps diluting the profit that one might have had when they projected they'd be the only player in the game. But I think there will be room to comfortably support both, especially given that more choice offered to the market should overall equate to greater sales than if no choice were available. If my suspicions are correct, the two new players (not forgetting ELC are out there doing pretty good repros already, with Aero a short step behind) will end up differentiating themselves enough to create their own niches.
For my money, given whats on offer from the two so far, one fits my choice better than the other. Hopefully they won't be inundated with orders when I'm ready to go.
stevetfire
Member
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
I'll second that..nicely puthavocpaul said:
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
I find this offers no clarity whatsoever. Why didn't YOU post the information about your jacket (after very nearly 10 years of work with others involved?) And as you and Andrew are both members,
the timing of the announcement becomes even more incomprehensible - unless the sole purpose was to kick the chair away from beneath another man. It was surely very easy for either of you to have AVOIDED the coincidence, but instead you actually created it. So, in what way do you consider the original announcement a coincidence? Surely you see this? I feel it's about as far away from integrity as you can be - but then, I'm no businessman.
coanda said:
I find this offers no clarity whatsoever. Why didn't YOU post the information about your jacket (after very nearly 10 years of work with others involved?) And as you and Andrew are both members,
the timing of the announcement becomes even more incomprehensible - unless the sole purpose was to kick the chair away from beneath another man. It was surely very easy for either of you to have AVOIDED the coincidence, but instead you actually created it. So, in what way do you consider the original announcement a coincidence? Surely you see this? I feel it's about as far away from integrity as you can be - but then, I'm no businessman.
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
No, I applaud the effort, I really do and the specificity of the contract is a real niche thing. I just despair over how all the high end makers have (perhaps necessarily) upped their game and their pricing to the point where acquiring their wares is becoming a real elitist thing. My problem perhaps for being of such finite means.
I think I have baulked at the idea that once the privileged few had been served then the rest of society can take their chances with what's left. If I am being at all unfair then I apologise wholeheartedly.
No, I applaud the effort, I really do and the specificity of the contract is a real niche thing. I just despair over how all the high end makers have (perhaps necessarily) upped their game and their pricing to the point where acquiring their wares is becoming a real elitist thing. My problem perhaps for being of such finite means.
I think I have baulked at the idea that once the privileged few had been served then the rest of society can take their chances with what's left. If I am being at all unfair then I apologise wholeheartedly.
Vcruiser
Well-Known Member
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
...but that is a 'propper' uniform!..the shoes match the jacket...the pants match the hair...and I would bet the shirt closely matches the shades.
deeb7 said:m444uk said:Do they pay people in NZ to prop up lamp posts ?
In NZ it's not even considered an occupation ... I'm a volunteer.
...but that is a 'propper' uniform!..the shoes match the jacket...the pants match the hair...and I would bet the shirt closely matches the shades.
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
That is what I was trying to say. All the talk of high end advertising campaigns and product releases don't really apply here. There seems to be no good reason for the timing of Andrews announcement other that the announcement of Jon. Likewise considering the uber accurate pre-war Irvin project is no where near ready, there is no reason for its sudden announcement and if it were just coincidence, no reason a delay couldn't have been made having seen Jon's post.
rich said:
That is what I was trying to say. All the talk of high end advertising campaigns and product releases don't really apply here. There seems to be no good reason for the timing of Andrews announcement other that the announcement of Jon. Likewise considering the uber accurate pre-war Irvin project is no where near ready, there is no reason for its sudden announcement and if it were just coincidence, no reason a delay couldn't have been made having seen Jon's post.
flyboy
Member
Re: A.M. Clothing Irvin Jackets-the ultimate RAF fleece jack
The problem is that some look at this place as a meeting place of friends with the same interests - and some sees this as a marketplace.
Seen from a marketing point of view I fully understands why Andrew & Co announced their option.
Seen from a friends point of view, they could easily have waited a month or so - without loosing customers -or friends.
But - Hey - it's out in the open now.
And we can all look forward to some really great jackets from two producers who really care about what they are doing.
We all get a better choice than before.
And some of us get a chance to buy much better repro Irvins.
Wether it'll be Jon fantastic and different models repros - or the stitch by stitch IAC 38 repro from AM.
Luckily we are not forced to buy - we just have better options.
Amen!
The problem is that some look at this place as a meeting place of friends with the same interests - and some sees this as a marketplace.
Seen from a marketing point of view I fully understands why Andrew & Co announced their option.
Seen from a friends point of view, they could easily have waited a month or so - without loosing customers -or friends.
But - Hey - it's out in the open now.
And we can all look forward to some really great jackets from two producers who really care about what they are doing.
We all get a better choice than before.
And some of us get a chance to buy much better repro Irvins.
Wether it'll be Jon fantastic and different models repros - or the stitch by stitch IAC 38 repro from AM.
Luckily we are not forced to buy - we just have better options.
Amen!
