B-6

[m444uk]

Hanging in a Japanese dealer

 

[B-Man2]

Great looking B-6.
And the price is???

 

[m444uk]

I can't remember it was a while back. The bubble seems to have burst on ridiculously high prices though.

 

[Peter Graham]

Do you reckon this is an original ? I wouldn’t be too sure without more pics. The seam tapes and epps are very contrasty.

 

[m444uk]

I think so. Look at the wonky leather hanger. The photo is at least a decade old and the Japanese makers at that time didn't use 1/4" thin fleece. On the other hand, the tape seems look a bit repro...

 

[dmar836]

I would assume it's a repro. From my limited experience the thinner fleece US jackets didn't preserve well at all. If original it would be the best example of a worn one I've seen.
JMO,
Dave

 

[Ken at Aero Leather]

The wonky hanger strip screams "original"

 

[Ken at Aero Leather]

I would assume it's a repro. From my limited experience the thinner fleece US jackets didn't preserve well at all. If original it would be the best example of a worn one I've seen.
JMO,
Dave

They do occasionally still show up in that condition, this is one is an Aero 42-5110-P we sold last year

 

[B-Man2]

Ken
Great looking B-6. Do you ever see them in the larger 46 and 48 sizes?

 

[m444uk]

Do you reckon this is an original ? I wouldn’t be too sure without more pics. The seam tapes and epps are very contrasty.

The russet tape seams in this 1942 photo stand out...

 

[m444uk]

I would assume it's a repro. From my limited experience the thinner fleece US jackets didn't preserve well at all. If original it would be the best example of a worn one I've seen.
JMO,
Dave

Bazelot's 1/4" fleece may be the best in existence although I've seen unworn original type B-2 caps too.

http://vintageleatherjackets.org/threads/fried-ostermann-m-444a-in-outstanding-condition.20029/

 

[dmar836]

Well, I'm not saying it can't be original but for the apparent wear that fleece sure has a lot of color and loft to it. Some parts look older(that epaulette look "Time Worn") but to me it lacks overall patina - what looks dull in the pic appears to be shininess in the lacquer... to me. I would stress that even if that strap might be a bit crooked, note it is forced that way by how the shoulders are rotated on the hangar - note the matching misalignment of the epaulettes. So that strap certainly wouldn't be much of an indicator to me.
Ken's is a fine example but has the patina this lacks. It does have that flat-stored look to the sleeves so...
This is what I feared perfect repros would lead to. Now you had better have provenance just to prove your jacket is old!
Dave

 

[m444uk]

Someone who owns an early an early RMCJ might be able to spot some clues that it's a well worn repro.

It's not an ELC, Aero or like these Buzz Ricksons

 

[m444uk]

Being really anal, I dug out a McCoy catalogue from 2000 and the anti-moth tag is sewn under the makers label, Same with Buzz where they have them.


The 'original' appears to have it above the label.