Zip for Roughwear b15a

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  1. Carl

    Carl Well-Known Member

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    Could anyone help me in locating the correct zip for the above named jacket please ? .
    Im specifically looking for the left-hand side part ( male)
    Carl
     
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  3. robrinay

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  4. Carl

    Carl Well-Known Member

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    Its the color of the tape thst seems to be the problem .I have contacted MASH earlier in the year , and they couldn't help !
    So what to do ???
     
  5. Silver Surfer

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    get one from the eb guy,, and color it with acrylic [thin application] paint to match. you may even want to soak the zipper in a diluted bleach bath to get rid of some of the green, before painting. if your paint work ends up shiny, work it down with 600 wet dry emery, a coupla passes. will the color match perfectly? it may be close if you are good with these kinda things. also, as you may already know,, the left side of a zipper on an original anything wwll is rarely, if ever a match for the right side due to exposure and sun. point being, dont worry about a perfect match.
     
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  6. Carl

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    Thanks for the tip silver surfer ! Sounds like somthing even i could manage ! ;)
     
  7. robrinay

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    Mash sell felt tip pens in a variety of colours to dye zipper tapes. Perhaps after bleaching that would give a better ‘texture’ than acrylic paint?
     
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  8. Geeboo

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    Hi Carl,
    1) I think the original zip for these B-10 are brass teeth & black-painted Conmar. As time worn, those black paint worn off & exposed the copper base.
    2) Mash now offer a Bell shaped zipper of #5 & with correct length and top stop. So, size & fit is solved - But is Olive in color.
    3) use that male part for replacement; 2 things need to be sorted out. Color of tape and color of the teeth

    3.1) Color of tape - The color of tape should be brown instead of the current only available olive color tape from Mash. I suggest BEFORE sewing into the garment - use 1:10 bleach water for a 5 minute interval, to bleach it to the same color of your existing tape. FYI. enclosed is the result of a 1:5 bleach water, 15 minutes bleach result [Brushing is essential to make it even out]. I think 1 session of 5 minutes, maxi. 2 [10 min] - 3 is sufficient. So, a 5 min. interval is a safe bet against over bleaching - for a US$60 zipper ! Use paint brush to apply rather than soaking.
    3.1.1) Add some diluted brown paint "water" during the process - just treat it as painting an oil painting, now the canvass is the olive cotton tape - bleach it down and add back some diluted brown acrylic paint & brush & more dilute again. More ideally, use water - based brown cloth dye. IMO - that would come very close to the original color. 20170316_140913.jpg

    3.2) The color of the teeth of Mash zip is shiny brass [NOS]. I suggest to use metal polish to slight polish the female side of the tape to make it more shiny again - yes more shiny. Then, this will provide a more near start point for both sides of the zipper to tarnish.
    3.2.1) Maybe after a few month of natural oxidation, you can consider to partially blackened the brass part of the zipper. mesh the tip of the round brush to almost no black paint in order to achieve the fainted appearances. BUT it is artistic type of thing which needs patient & skill. OR just leave it for natural oxidation then.
    Hope this help
     

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  9. Silver Surfer

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    if you wish to blacken your brass conmar, use gun bluing on it. one pass dulls the brass. two passes will make it spotty dark, three, four, ec. finally, you can make a brass zipper dead black with gun bluing.
     
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  10. Carl

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  11. Art

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    Love this man's knowledge
     
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